InMySoul77 wrote: Tue Oct 24, 2023 11:30 am Only Christians go to heaven.

Where do Muslims go?

rsmurphy wrote: Tue Oct 24, 2023 12:23 pm

InMySoul77 wrote: Tue Oct 24, 2023 11:30 am Only Christians go to heaven.

Where do Muslims go?

I'm not Jesus, my friend. I don't have all of the answers to every difficult question.

I'll refer you to my post in our earlier thread that points out that scripture is not exactly clear as to the fate of people who simply lack the right *beliefs*. But as John 14:6 states clearly, only Christians go to heaven.

InMySoul77 wrote: Tue Oct 24, 2023 12:36 pm I don't have all of the answers to every difficult question.

I'm failing to understand what is so difficult about that question? Heaven or Hell. Any proud, proselytizing Christian will talk at length about where non-Christians will spend eternity. Don't be so squirrely about it.

Where will Muslims go after God's final judgement?

rsmurphy wrote: Tue Oct 24, 2023 12:46 pm

InMySoul77 wrote: Tue Oct 24, 2023 12:36 pm I don't have all of the answers to every difficult question.

I'm failing to understand what is so difficult about that question? Heaven or Hell. Any proud, proselytizing Christian will talk at length about where non-Christians will spend eternity. Don't be so squirrely about it.

Where will Muslims go after God's final judgement?

Don't lump me in with every Christian you've met. I'm being honest, not squirrelly. It's a difficult question to which I lack an answer.

InMySoul77 wrote: Tue Oct 24, 2023 12:55 pm Don't lump me in with every Christian you've met.

I'm not lumping you in with every Christian I've met, I'm expecting an answer according to scripture - according to God's word in the Holy Bible, unless you have an InMySoul77 version of the Holy Bible.

One more time; I believe in you! Where will Muslims go after God's final judgement?

rsmurphy wrote: Tue Oct 24, 2023 1:01 pm

InMySoul77 wrote: Tue Oct 24, 2023 12:55 pm Don't lump me in with every Christian you've met.

I'm not lumping you in with every Christian I've met, I'm expecting an answer according to scripture - according to God's word in the Holy Bible, unless you have an InMySoul77 version of the Holy Bible.

One more time; I believe in you! Where will Muslims go after God's final judgement?

I'm telling you, as a long time student of scripture, that your question as posed has no clear answer in scripture. Jesus often condemns people to hell for sinful behaviors, but the question of right *belief* as it pertains to hell isn't clearly answered.

Did D. Boon, who we all love, go to hell because he lacked the right belief system? What I can say is that he didn't go to heaven.

InMySoul77 wrote: Tue Oct 24, 2023 1:07 pm I'm telling you, as a long time student of scripture, that your question as posed has no clear answer in scripture.

As someone who was baptized and raised in the Baptist faith with a grandfather who was a pastor in his own church, and a grandmother who owned her own religious bookstore, and devout great-grandparents it does has a clear answer. When this world has passed away and all of God's children are seated at his right hand, where do all of the non-believers go?

rsmurphy wrote: Tue Oct 24, 2023 1:23 pm

InMySoul77 wrote: Tue Oct 24, 2023 1:07 pm I'm telling you, as a long time student of scripture, that your question as posed has no clear answer in scripture.

As someone who was baptized and raised in the Baptist faith with a grandfather who was a pastor in his own church, and a grandmother who owned her own religious bookstore, and devout great-grandparents it does has a clear answer. When this world has passed away and all of God's children are seated at his right hand, where do all of the non-believers go?

I can't vouch for what you were told growing up.

All I can vouch for is my own understanding of the Bible.

InMySoul77 wrote: I can't vouch for what you were told growing up.

You can't vouch for the word of God? I clearly remember what I was taught in church, Sunday school, and playing music in our church choir, and that was all non-believers and followers of false Gods at the end of our world will be tossed into the Lake of Fire to burn for all eternity. Is the King James version of the Bible wrong? Was John mistaken or unclear in the Book of Revelation?

rsmurphy wrote: Tue Oct 24, 2023 1:36 pm

InMySoul77 wrote: I can't vouch for what you were told growing up.

You can't vouch for the word of God? I clearly remember what I was taught in church, Sunday school, and playing music in our church choir, and that was all non-believers and followers of false Gods at the end of our world will be tossed into the Lake of Fire to burn for all eternity. Is the King James version of the Bible wrong? Was John mistaken or unclear in the Book of Revelation?

Yes the King James version has many mistranslations. It's junk. I recommend using the New Revised Standard Version.

The people tossed into the lake of fire in Revelation are (a) those worshipping the end times Antichrist and (b) the Antichrist and False prophet themselves. There's no mention of "nonbelievers" or "false gods". In a broader context the final judgment at the post-tribulational rapture and resurrection is described in Matthew 25:

The Sheep and the Goats
31 “When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, he will sit on his glorious throne. 32 All the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate the people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. 33 He will put the sheep on his right and the goats on his left.

34 “Then the King will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world. 35 For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, 36 I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.’

37 “Then the righteous will answer him, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? 38 When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? 39 When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?’

40 “The King will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.’

41 “Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. 42 For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, 43 I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.’

44 “They also will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?’

45 “He will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.’