Vibracobra wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2023 12:59 pm

penningtron wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2023 7:59 am the bland drumming seems at odds with the rest of the band.

True. The drumming desn't... groove.

By Cleansing and ESPECIALLY Rude Awakening they had really moved away from their thrash / crossover roots and were taking the Killing Joke / PIL drumming style w/ C standard minimal riffing - sorta USA take on heavy metal disco that that industrial-tinged nu metal stuff (Static X, Rob Zombie solo) would ride on later.

Will agree the drum sounds on Beg to Differ and Prove You Wrong are pretty misjudged.

Vibracobra wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2023 4:41 am La sexorcisto is fine but the production sucks.

There's a great remaster of that record on the Let Sleeping Corpses Lie box set that rights a few early 90s Andy Wallace-isms wrongs.

M.H wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2023 3:15 pm

Vibracobra wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2023 4:41 am La sexorcisto is fine but the production sucks.

There's a great remaster of that record on the Let Sleeping Corpses Lie box set that rights a few early 90s Andy Wallace-isms wrongs.

Might give it a try.

That record always sounded kinda muffled, lacklustre. But it has good songs.

Some Andy Wallace work is fine; Apart from the well known mixing stuff, I think he recorded, produced and mixed Chaos AD. Also King for a day.

Machine Head's debut was cool back in the day. Davidian still slays.

M.H wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2023 3:15 pm

Vibracobra wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2023 4:41 am La sexorcisto is fine but the production sucks.

There's a great remaster of that record on the Let Sleeping Corpses Lie box set that rights a few early 90s Andy Wallace-isms wrongs.

Production ain't all there is to a band.

Whatever the album lacked? This did not.

I saw Rob Zombie years ago, and it was pretty lame. Yes, he did all those old WZ songs.

Krev wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2023 8:54 pm I saw Rob Zombie years ago, and it was pretty lame. Yes, he did all those old WZ songs.

Well...

There isn't really much of a point without that "Sexorcisto..." lineup.

The three of them chugging is all you really need. If anything, RZ is just getting in their way.

numberthirty wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2023 9:40 pm

Krev wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2023 8:54 pm I saw Rob Zombie years ago, and it was pretty lame. Yes, he did all those old WZ songs.

Well...

There isn't really much of a point without that "Sexorcisto..." lineup.

The three of them chugging is all you really need. If anything, RZ is just getting in their way.

Yes, that became clear when I clicked w/ WZ.

RZ may have been crucial to the marketing / aesthetics but musically he's totally superfluous. Esp live when he's outta breath 2 songs into the set.

Vibracobra wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2023 12:59 pm

penningtron wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2023 7:59 am the bland drumming seems at odds with the rest of the band.

True. The drumming desn't... groove.

Digging thru Cleansing a bit more, admittedly the drums open up on album tracks but still nothing that hasn't been done better on a Helmet record. I really can't take more than a few songs of this super gated guitar sound.

I always thought Prong was a drum machine band.