InMySoul77 wrote: Fri Nov 03, 2023 6:46 am

Curry Pervert wrote: Thu Nov 02, 2023 8:50 pm Apparently not only is Johnson anti abortion, he's also long crusaded against contraception, so as big a forced birther as you could probably get. How the fuck do these cranks end up in these positions?!?

Google "Vatican and Freemasons control Washington"

Yeah it was mostly a rhetorical question. I've seen the Netflix doc 'The Family' which sheds some light on this.

my immigrant coworker lowered her voice and told me, "i voted for trump because my husband said ukraine and russia won't happen."

nyt wrote:Voters, by a 59 percent to 37 percent margin, said they better trusted Mr. Trump over Mr. Biden on the economy, the largest gap of any issue.

we tried this in 2006 and everyone was wrong. so let's do it again.
my prediction:
2024: trump/noem
2028: youngkin/scott
2032: inslee/whitmer
2036: inslee/malia obama

Things didn't pan out well for Noem's previous incarnation, Sarah Palin.

nyt wrote:Voters, by a 59 percent to 37 percent margin, said they better trusted Mr. Trump over Mr. Biden on the economy, the largest gap of any issue.

What the FUCK is WRONG with people? I feel like I am losing my mind a little more every day. The guy is literally in the process of having his businesses shut down for gross financial mismanagement. You trust the guy who's having his businesses liquidated to manage the economy more than the guy who gave you an infrastructure bill. What's next, voters trust Trump more than Biden not to rape women?

"All I know is, my wife was prettier back when Trump was president"

Just find me a rock to crawl under.

Anthony Flack wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 2:16 am

nyt wrote:Voters, by a 59 percent to 37 percent margin, said they better trusted Mr. Trump over Mr. Biden on the economy, the largest gap of any issue.

What the FUCK is WRONG with people?

It's White evangelicals, dude. People who believe the Earth is 6000 yrs old can be made to believe anything you tell them in the news. Welcome to the deep anti intellectual currents beneath red state America.

InMySoul77 wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 5:26 am

Anthony Flack wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 2:16 am

nyt wrote:Voters, by a 59 percent to 37 percent margin, said they better trusted Mr. Trump over Mr. Biden on the economy, the largest gap of any issue.

What the FUCK is WRONG with people?

It's White evangelicals, dude. People who believe the Earth is 6000 yrs old can be made to believe anything you tell them in the news. Welcome to the deep anti intellectual currents beneath red state America.

It's much simpler than all that. The same thing makes their world go around as any selfish bastard ---personal economy. Trump managed to speak to the bottom line of a guy who distributes ball bearings. What does that guy care about infrastructure? The worse the infrastructure, the more ball bearings he sells. I find it very difficult to make sweeping generalizations about specific idiots when Biden is patching holes in the border fence that Clinton built and Trump claimed credit for. It's a bloody plague of idiots.

But even ball bearing guy should have felt the damage of nonsense China tariffs, or recognized he pays more taxes now so Exxon could get that tax cut. Doesn't everyone see by now that the current guy inherits the previous guy's economic choices. (notably Trump was riding Obama's steady gains up to the pandemic)

Anthony Flack wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 2:16 am

nyt wrote:Voters, by a 59 percent to 37 percent margin, said they better trusted Mr. Trump over Mr. Biden on the economy, the largest gap of any issue.

What the FUCK is WRONG with people? I feel like I am losing my mind a little more every day. The guy is literally in the process of having his businesses shut down for gross financial mismanagement. You trust the guy who's having his businesses liquidated to manage the economy more than the guy who gave you an infrastructure bill. What's next, voters trust Trump more than Biden not to rape women?

The problem is the average voter suffers from a lack of curiosity about how things work and an almost repulsion to nuance. Joe Blow sees pricey eggs and his TV pundit gives him just enough info to know "inflation" is the name of the thing that made his groceries so darn expensive, then pundit points at the president. Done. Economic mistrust complete.

Nevermind that the US has experienced more job growth (the same thing every single president has campaigned on for at least a century). Nevermind that inflation is a global fucking dynamic. Why would this potential voter want to know that the US is in the top 10 countries for lowest inflation. That our friends in Canada, Australia, Germany, France and *gasp* conservatively ruled Britain have higher inflation. Those creepy socialists in Spain and Switzerland have slightly lower inflation.

It's like bitching about the "president's gas prices" when you've never heard of OPEC.

Anthony Flack wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 2:16 am

nyt wrote:Voters, by a 59 percent to 37 percent margin, said they better trusted Mr. Trump over Mr. Biden on the economy, the largest gap of any issue.

What the FUCK is WRONG with people? I feel like I am losing my mind a little more every day. The guy is literally in the process of having his businesses shut down for gross financial mismanagement. You trust the guy who's having his businesses liquidated to manage the economy more than the guy who gave you an infrastructure bill. What's next, voters trust Trump more than Biden not to rape women?

"All I know is, my wife was prettier back when Trump was president"

Just find me a rock to crawl under.

55% of that 59% probably thinks better economy means more bath salts.

It really boggles the mind that anyone would think the world record holder for bankruptcies can manage fuck all. I imagine a lot of it is from people remembering lower gas and food prices pre-Covid.

It's probably a mixture of economic grievances and White evangelicals. The abortion issue is huge.

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads ... p-in-2020/

Over eight in ten committed White evangelicals support Trump. Even after Jan 6.