InMySoul77 wrote: Thu Dec 21, 2023 4:57 am Pretty Hate Machine and the Downward Spiral.

I can't listen to either anymore, but the NIN Downward Spiral b-side cover of Soft Cell's "Memorabilia" is still fucking brilliant. IMO the best thing Reznor has ever made. WF for dancing to "Closer" in night clubs in 1994. I still remember Eva.

Re: Dirty... IMO it's an enjoyable enough rock album because they are uber talented ("Purr" is a jam) but on some level I think the band realized this was the wrong direction for them. Lee almost left the band over that album. Signing to Geffen then getting Nirvana to tag along as their little brothers, and then seeing what that did to Kurt, I think affected them. They were back to releasing a 20 min noise jam in 1995 and they never looked back. Usually I'm more of a Purr-ist than a purist but there are unique aspects to this few years of rock history

enframed wrote: Thu Dec 21, 2023 12:33 pm

zorg wrote: Sun Dec 17, 2023 9:10 am Trompe Le Monde however was a great record by a band on their last legs.

It is a great record, full stop. My favorite Pixies album for sure.

Listening to this for the first time. Damn good.

This is definitely the most... interesting Flag release. I kinda like it though I'm not sure I entirely understand what Ginn is doing here. Probably hated by 95 percent of BF fans.

InMySoul77 wrote: Thu Dec 21, 2023 4:43 pm

This is definitely the most... interesting Flag release. I kinda like it though I'm not sure I entirely understand what Ginn is doing here. Probably hated by 95 percent of BF fans.

This is the best! Late black flag over early black flag any day : )

seby wrote: Thu Dec 21, 2023 7:14 pm

InMySoul77 wrote: Thu Dec 21, 2023 4:43 pm

This is definitely the most... interesting Flag release. I kinda like it though I'm not sure I entirely understand what Ginn is doing here. Probably hated by 95 percent of BF fans.

This is the best! Late black flag over early black flag any day : )

Agreed.

Couple more cool albums hated by their major labels:

Neil Young, Trans



Royal Trux, Sweet Sixteen

Sigue Sigue Sputnik Flaunt It

^ big fan of Dress for Excess and the band in general.

rsmurphy wrote: Thu Dec 21, 2023 11:57 am Speaking of purist arguments I heard "Purr" from Dirty the other day and thought: damn, this song is a blast; I bet it's a joy to play.

I love that song. Really like the album too, but that's a standout. A great deep cut if there ever was one.

King Crimson's Earthbound mostly deserves its reputation as a mediocre, poorly-recorded live album but the version of 21st Century Schizoid Man it contains is fucking BRUTAL: