Re: Small questions that don't fit anywhere

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Here's a long answer to a small question that a buddy of mine asked me, and I thought I'd share it here:
So what’s the deal with all the SVT variants? I assume the classic standard all tube one retroactively became number 1, but then there 7 other ones.

Some are huge, some aren’t, some are hybrids, some are huge and others not so much, I think one is a newer class D one, etc.

Which are the good ones and why?
Buckle up. Gonna rattle this off from the top of my head.

SVT: The OG, all tube. 300 W. Started in 1969, I believe. A few variations over the years, depending on who owned Ampeg at the time. Generally, they all sound similar/good, but heavy AF. I don’t know much about the minor variations with the reissues and such (SVT-AV, SVT-VR, etc).

SVT II (non-pro): Basically the same as the SVT, but in a 4U rackmount case. Made in USA. I own a very early one from 1989 (number 12 in the run, I believe).

SVT-IIP: 1U rackmount preamp. Same circuit as the SVT/SVT-II/SVT-III (non-pro). 3 preamp tubes. Costs as much, if not more, than an SVT-III, and you don’t get the output stage. It’s small and light though. I’ve owned a couple over the years. Tim Commerford from RATM lowballed me on the first one I repaired.

SVT-II Pro: All tube, different preamp section from the non-pro version. Adds a Master Volume. Later ones are named “SVT-2 Pro.” Some were built in USA, some in China or Vietnam, I think.

SVP Pro: 1U preamp, but with the “pro” circuit from the SVT-2 Pro. 5 preamp tubes.

SVT-CL: Essentially the same as the SVT-2 Pro, but in a traditional non-rackmount case.

SVT-III (non-pro): Same preamp section as OG SVT, but with solid-state BJT output stage. 300 - 350 W. 2U rack case. I’ve been looking for a reasonably priced (i.e. broken) one of these for a while.

SVT-III Pro: Similar preamp to the SVT-II Pro, 450 W MOSFET output stage. Later ones are named “SVT-3 Pro.” Some were built in USA, some in China or Vietnam, I think.

SVT-IV Pro: They didn’t make a non-pro version of this, as far as I can tell. 3U rack. 3 tubes in the preamp. 1200 W solid-state MOSFET output section. They sound good, but they suck to work on and are somewhat unreliable due to their complexity and I refuse to work on them anymore. Again, later versions are named “SVT-4 Pro.” Some USA, some overseas builds.

SVT-5 Pro: 3U rack. All solid-state, 2-channel preamp, some sort of octave-down effect built in. ~1000 W MOSFET output. I’ve never seen one in person. Some USA, some overseas builds.

SVT-6 Pro: 6 preamp tubes, 1100 W MOSFET output stage. 2U rack case. Haven’t worked on one of these before, I think they’re somewhat rare.

SVT-7 Pro: Lightweight 2U rack, switching power supply and 1000 W Class-D output. Single 12AX7 tube in the preamp for tube “color.” Notorious for blowing up power boards. Have repaired a few, wouldn’t buy one to use regularly.

SVT-8 Pro: Tube/SS hybrid preamp, 1300 W MOSFET output. Can drive 2 ohm loads at 2500 W. Very rare, didn’t make many, never seen one in person. Supposedly unreliable. Almost bought a broken one last year, but somebody snagged it before I could check out. Some USA made, some overseas.

There’s some other preamps I don’t really know about. SVP-BSP (Billy Sheehan preamp), SVP-CL, among them.

There’s also some special edition “skunkworks” SVT-HDs that were built later from a stash of original parts when Ampeg changed hands in the late 80s. They’re rare, and have a special plaque on them. Limited run of 500.

Basically, anything below “4/IV” are the good ones. The others are either overkill (power-wise), too complicated, or too unreliable to mess with. The SVT-III (non-pro) is the sweet spot in terms of tone vs. size/weight.

Re: Small questions that don't fit anywhere

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cakes wrote: Fri Feb 02, 2024 1:24 pm Speaking of pickguards, I need to replace the one on my 2009 Les Paul Studio. I'm seeing conflicting information online about which ones fit correctly. Does anyone here have experience with this issue? I was looking at different ones on Amazon that weren't as expensive as Gibson, seems like the knockoffs are sometimes the wrong size?

I've also been looking for a chrome one, not mirror. Not sure if they even exist. I'd probably just do black if this is impossible.
All Parts makes a chrome plated brass one. Their Strat stuff usually fits. I don’t have experience with their LP parts.

https://www.allparts.com/products/pg-08 ... n-les-paul
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The dynamic section of my dual element Audio Technica ATM-250DE mic stopped working. I’ve double checked continuity for all pins of the 5-pin breakout/splitter cable to make sure it isn’t the cable. Anyone know of an affordable place to get this repaired? Maybe it’s the diaphragm. Maybe it’s a small component burned out or bad connection. Or should I just consider this a single element mic now since you can get old stock of these for $250? I certainly don’t want to spend more than the mic is worth.

Nate, wanna take on a mic repair?
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Re: Small questions that don't fit anywhere

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Nate Dort wrote: Sun Feb 04, 2024 8:10 pm Here's a long answer to a small question that a buddy of mine asked me, and I thought I'd share it here:
So what’s the deal with all the SVT variants? I assume the classic standard all tube one retroactively became number 1, but then there 7 other ones.

Some are huge, some aren’t, some are hybrids, some are huge and others not so much, I think one is a newer class D one, etc.

Which are the good ones and why?
Buckle up. Gonna rattle this off from the top of my head.

SVT: The OG, all tube. 300 W. Started in 1969, I believe. A few variations over the years, depending on who owned Ampeg at the time. Generally, they all sound similar/good, but heavy AF. I don’t know much about the minor variations with the reissues and such (SVT-AV, SVT-VR, etc).

SVT II (non-pro): Basically the same as the SVT, but in a 4U rackmount case. Made in USA. I own a very early one from 1989 (number 12 in the run, I believe).

SVT-IIP: 1U rackmount preamp. Same circuit as the SVT/SVT-II/SVT-III (non-pro). 3 preamp tubes. Costs as much, if not more, than an SVT-III, and you don’t get the output stage. It’s small and light though. I’ve owned a couple over the years. Tim Commerford from RATM lowballed me on the first one I repaired.

SVT-II Pro: All tube, different preamp section from the non-pro version. Adds a Master Volume. Later ones are named “SVT-2 Pro.” Some were built in USA, some in China or Vietnam, I think.

SVP Pro: 1U preamp, but with the “pro” circuit from the SVT-2 Pro. 5 preamp tubes.

SVT-CL: Essentially the same as the SVT-2 Pro, but in a traditional non-rackmount case.

SVT-III (non-pro): Same preamp section as OG SVT, but with solid-state BJT output stage. 300 - 350 W. 2U rack case. I’ve been looking for a reasonably priced (i.e. broken) one of these for a while.

SVT-III Pro: Similar preamp to the SVT-II Pro, 450 W MOSFET output stage. Later ones are named “SVT-3 Pro.” Some were built in USA, some in China or Vietnam, I think.

SVT-IV Pro: They didn’t make a non-pro version of this, as far as I can tell. 3U rack. 3 tubes in the preamp. 1200 W solid-state MOSFET output section. They sound good, but they suck to work on and are somewhat unreliable due to their complexity and I refuse to work on them anymore. Again, later versions are named “SVT-4 Pro.” Some USA, some overseas builds.

SVT-5 Pro: 3U rack. All solid-state, 2-channel preamp, some sort of octave-down effect built in. ~1000 W MOSFET output. I’ve never seen one in person. Some USA, some overseas builds.

SVT-6 Pro: 6 preamp tubes, 1100 W MOSFET output stage. 2U rack case. Haven’t worked on one of these before, I think they’re somewhat rare.

SVT-7 Pro: Lightweight 2U rack, switching power supply and 1000 W Class-D output. Single 12AX7 tube in the preamp for tube “color.” Notorious for blowing up power boards. Have repaired a few, wouldn’t buy one to use regularly.

SVT-8 Pro: Tube/SS hybrid preamp, 1300 W MOSFET output. Can drive 2 ohm loads at 2500 W. Very rare, didn’t make many, never seen one in person. Supposedly unreliable. Almost bought a broken one last year, but somebody snagged it before I could check out. Some USA made, some overseas.

There’s some other preamps I don’t really know about. SVP-BSP (Billy Sheehan preamp), SVP-CL, among them.

There’s also some special edition “skunkworks” SVT-HDs that were built later from a stash of original parts when Ampeg changed hands in the late 80s. They’re rare, and have a special plaque on them. Limited run of 500.

Basically, anything below “4/IV” are the good ones. The others are either overkill (power-wise), too complicated, or too unreliable to mess with. The SVT-III (non-pro) is the sweet spot in terms of tone vs. size/weight.
Follow up non-little-question-statement, I really really really appreciate not just the level of knowledge everyone here has, but that I know it comes from a place of actually playing most of this stuff, often out in the world, often under less than perfect venue situations. The amount of youtube analysts, or feature-based-opinion hawkers that permeate pretty much any other forum has made it kind of useless to get good qualitative or often even factual information.

I think synthesizer people especially have been burning me out, because it's like... you can just go ahead and play some of this stuff right?

Re: Small questions that don't fit anywhere

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Nate Dort wrote: Sun Feb 04, 2024 8:10 pm Here's a long answer to a small question that a buddy of mine asked me, and I thought I'd share it here:
So what’s the deal with all the SVT variants? I assume the classic standard all tube one retroactively became number 1, but then there 7 other ones.

Some are huge, some aren’t, some are hybrids, some are huge and others not so much, I think one is a newer class D one, etc.

Which are the good ones and why?
Buckle up. Gonna rattle this off from the top of my head.

*buncha SVT stuff deleted*
There's also the 50th Anniversary SVT, where I (wit hhelp from many other people) got to revoice a Heritage with component value changes to sound more like a '69 unit with the weird power tubes. It's actually pretty cool.
https://ampeg.com/products/heritage/svt ... niversary/

Re: Small questions that don't fit anywhere

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Nate Dort wrote: Sun Feb 04, 2024 8:10 pm Here's a long answer to a small question that a buddy of mine asked me, and I thought I'd share it here:
So what’s the deal with all the SVT variants? I assume the classic standard all tube one retroactively became number 1, but then there 7 other ones.

Some are huge, some aren’t, some are hybrids, some are huge and others not so much, I think one is a newer class D one, etc.

Which are the good ones and why?
Buckle up. Gonna rattle this off from the top of my head.

SVT: The OG, all tube. 300 W. Started in 1969, I believe. A few variations over the years, depending on who owned Ampeg at the time. Generally, they all sound similar/good, but heavy AF. I don’t know much about the minor variations with the reissues and such (SVT-AV, SVT-VR, etc).
Since my old bandmate had several iterations I can speak to this a little because I’m really familiar with them. I even owned an SVT-CL myself (currently have an SVP-CL I use into a GK800RB).

Magnavox-era black line SVT: awesome classic sound. Round, gets pretty wooly above 5 or 6 with a p bass. Channel 1 is where it’s at. Channel 2 is a little cleaner. Heaviest gear you’ll probably ever move. This amp really hated JJ preamp tubes. Maybe the sockets just needed retensioning.

SVT-VR: this is the modern blue line clone. sounds a lot like the Magnavox. A little cleaner, maybe because of the easy to use biasing. I suspect the power section is identical to the SVT-CL. Preamp on both sides sounds different than the CL. I can’t remember if St Louis Music or Loud Industries owned Ampeg when this came out. But I’m pretty sure this was the first one made in Vietnam.

SVT-AV: pretty sure this is just an SVT-CL with a vintage colorway. Neither of us owned this one, but we’ve both played through one.

SVT-CL: great solid workhorse of an amp. Both the US and the Vietnam iterations were pretty reliable. Doesn’t have a much of that distinctive mid grind of the vintage ones. Less aggressive. I can’t really find much fault in these. Keep the pre around 4-5 and crank the master as high as your venue allows. Super punchy with the master on 10.

We never ran the Magnavox with a bigger load than 4 ohms, but we’ve driven the CL and VR pretty hard at 8 ohms (on the 4-ohm setting) with no problems. I won’t encourage it though, you might not be as lucky. Sounds better matching the correct load to either the 4 ohm or 2 ohm setting though.
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tommy wrote: Mon Feb 05, 2024 3:11 pm
Nate Dort wrote: Sun Feb 04, 2024 8:10 pm Here's a long answer to a small question that a buddy of mine asked me, and I thought I'd share it here:
So what’s the deal with all the SVT variants? I assume the classic standard all tube one retroactively became number 1, but then there 7 other ones.

Some are huge, some aren’t, some are hybrids, some are huge and others not so much, I think one is a newer class D one, etc.

Which are the good ones and why?
Buckle up. Gonna rattle this off from the top of my head.

SVT: The OG, all tube. 300 W. Started in 1969, I believe. A few variations over the years, depending on who owned Ampeg at the time. Generally, they all sound similar/good, but heavy AF. I don’t know much about the minor variations with the reissues and such (SVT-AV, SVT-VR, etc).
Since my old bandmate had several iterations I can speak to this a little because I’m really familiar with them. I even owned an SVT-CL myself (currently have an SVP-CL I use into a GK800RB).

Magnavox-era black line SVT: awesome classic sound. Round, gets pretty wooly above 5 or 6 with a p bass. Channel 1 is where it’s at. Channel 2 is a little cleaner. Heaviest gear you’ll probably ever move. This amp really hated JJ preamp tubes. Maybe the sockets just needed retensioning.

SVT-VR: this is the modern blue line clone. sounds a lot like the Magnavox. A little cleaner, maybe because of the easy to use biasing. I suspect the power section is identical to the SVT-CL. Preamp on both sides sounds different than the CL. I can’t remember if St Louis Music or Loud Industries owned Ampeg when this came out. But I’m pretty sure this was the first one made in Vietnam.

SVT-AV: pretty sure this is just an SVT-CL with a vintage colorway. Neither of us owned this one, but we’ve both played through one.

SVT-CL: great solid workhorse of an amp. Both the US and the Vietnam iterations were pretty reliable. Doesn’t have a much of that distinctive mid grind of the vintage ones. Less aggressive. I can’t really find much fault in these. Keep the pre around 4-5 and crank the master as high as your venue allows. Super punchy with the master on 10.

We never ran the Magnavox with a bigger load than 4 ohms, but we’ve driven the CL and VR pretty hard at 8 ohms (on the 4-ohm setting) with no problems. I won’t encourage it though, you might not be as lucky. Sounds better matching the correct load to either the 4 ohm or 2 ohm setting though.
I've owned a 69 SVT, a Magnavox Era SVT, the SVT-VR. They all weigh a ton, it's hard to say which one was the heaviest. I do remember the Magnavox seeming deeper, though. The frame was weird on that one. From what I recall, they all sound very similar. The Magnavox is probably the outlier, if I remember correctly. It sounds great, just a little different. I sold it to Steve Albini for use at Electrical and from what I understand, you can hear it on a Neurosis album recorded there at the time. I'm gonna guess it's Fires within Fires, because that's from 2016. Could be the one before, Honor Found in Decay, but that was 2012 and I don't think I sold it that year.

I really like the break down of all the rack mounts. I've always been turned off by them. Some of them I have heard and was not impressed, but I can't say which ones. In my mind, it was always the SVT Pro II.

I've never been impressed with the SVT-CL, maybe because it's too clean? Just seemed like a lot of weight to lug around to not have that Ampeg growl, which is the whole point of owning an amp that weighs 1000 lbs.

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Does anyone know where you can find 1/4-20 screws with an extremely flat/thin top? They only seem to show up on dodgy sites from China or India.

The idea is to use them to make a Mustang tremolo into a hardtail bridge. I want the bottom to be flat so the guitar it goes onto wouldn't need the space for the two stop tail posts to be drilled into the body.

Or would the angling of the whole unity, no matter how slight, be a bad idea?
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