Re: Small questions that don't fit anywhere
1882Any opinions on a pair of Audio Technica 4051 vs Shure KSM137? Need a utility pair, maybe more for acoustic stuff than anything else, but still need some all arounders. Would probably prefer the KSM141 for omni , but those are too expensive right now.
Also, if a Beyer M88 is too boomy on my voice - what are you doing while tracking? Move it back? HPF? Grab another mic?
I was holding it for scratch vocals and the proximity effect was a little too happening, though I was still careful not to eat the mic. My inclination would be to move it further back, but at that point, wouldn’t a condenser be a better option? There’s no reason I couldn’t put it on a stand and back away a bit, I’m just sort of doing a gut check here.
Also, if a Beyer M88 is too boomy on my voice - what are you doing while tracking? Move it back? HPF? Grab another mic?
I was holding it for scratch vocals and the proximity effect was a little too happening, though I was still careful not to eat the mic. My inclination would be to move it further back, but at that point, wouldn’t a condenser be a better option? There’s no reason I couldn’t put it on a stand and back away a bit, I’m just sort of doing a gut check here.
Re: Small questions that don't fit anywhere
1883I've never used the AT 4051. I've been using KSM137 and 141s for 10+ years. Reliable, clear, utilitarian, unsexy. They are very useful. I particularly like them on overheads but they can get the job done for any acoustic instrument.
On the other front, proximity effect is a consideration with many great vocal mics. They all have different optimal distances in different situations. There's nothing wrong with backing off a dynamic mic, but I get what you mean. When I've recorded with an SM7 or an RE20 getting right on top of the mic just felt right, probably because it's the most like band practice.
On the other front, proximity effect is a consideration with many great vocal mics. They all have different optimal distances in different situations. There's nothing wrong with backing off a dynamic mic, but I get what you mean. When I've recorded with an SM7 or an RE20 getting right on top of the mic just felt right, probably because it's the most like band practice.
Re: Small questions that don't fit anywhere
1884I still roll hard for Oktava MK012. For boomy mic, I have a few of these I have used in the past. they work.llllllllllllllllllll wrote: Sat Apr 06, 2024 4:10 pm Any opinions on a pair of Audio Technica 4051 vs Shure KSM137? Need a utility pair, maybe more for acoustic stuff than anything else, but still need some all arounders. Would probably prefer the KSM141 for omni , but those are too expensive right now.
Also, if a Beyer M88 is too boomy on my voice - what are you doing while tracking? Move it back? HPF? Grab another mic?
I was holding it for scratch vocals and the proximity effect was a little too happening, though I was still careful not to eat the mic. My inclination would be to move it further back, but at that point, wouldn’t a condenser be a better option? There’s no reason I couldn’t put it on a stand and back away a bit, I’m just sort of doing a gut check here.
https://www.shure.com/en-US/products/ac ... iant=A15HP
Re: Small questions that don't fit anywhere
1885I've been satisfied with it on acoustic guitar. I got one used for barely $100 (cardioid capsule only) which is tough to beat.
Re: Small questions that don't fit anywhere
1886One other thing that does seem worth taking note of...penningtron wrote: Sun Apr 07, 2024 7:57 amI've been satisfied with it on acoustic guitar. I got one used for barely $100 (cardioid capsule only) which is tough to beat.
If buying a microphone with an "Omni..." option is not in the budget now?
This set of options will be there if a time comes when the funds for that have been set aside.
https://www.frontendaudio.com/microphon ... 119&page=1
(Never mind that I have never once heard of anyone not being thinking that microphone was absolutely worthwhile...)
Re: Small questions that don't fit anywhere
1887Another vote for the Oktavas...although I was able to get mine years ago at the $100 range as FMKR mentioned above.
Honestly though, IDK if I'd pay going rates based on above, I'd have to really give that some consideration. These were bang-for-the buck mics for sure and in that price range there are a lot of options.
Honestly though, IDK if I'd pay going rates based on above, I'd have to really give that some consideration. These were bang-for-the buck mics for sure and in that price range there are a lot of options.
Re: Small questions that don't fit anywhere
1888Thanks, I’ll add Oktavas to my search feelers. Maybe I can find one for cheap before I commit to a pair.
I feel like any two single KSM137 or AT4051 mics would probably match well enough for my purposes, but not sure about these.
I feel like any two single KSM137 or AT4051 mics would probably match well enough for my purposes, but not sure about these.
Re: Small questions that don't fit anywhere
1889I have bought 2 on ebay for for around $120-130 for the body and cardioid caps and pads. I've had one of mine since 1997 and its still kicking. I've told people that if they only could have one mic an Oktava MK012 isn't a bad choice. I love them on toms. I've used 137's and they are good. Sound more similar to a SM81 to my ears and there is nothing wrong with that. Never used a 4051. SM81's are coo too. between my Oktavas and 81's I've never wanted for more SDCs.llllllllllllllllllll wrote: Mon Apr 08, 2024 9:45 am Thanks, I’ll add Oktavas to my search feelers. Maybe I can find one for cheap before I commit to a pair.
I feel like any two single KSM137 or AT4051 mics would probably match well enough for my purposes, but not sure about these.
Re: Small questions that don't fit anywhere
1890KSM137 is the same as the KSM141 in cardioid mode. I love them for overheads. We ab’ed them with a pair of MK-012 and preferred the Shure. The highs are less harsh. The 012s are pretty good though. I probably wouldn’t know the difference if it wasn’t side by side.llllllllllllllllllll wrote: Sat Apr 06, 2024 4:10 pm Any opinions on a pair of Audio Technica 4051 vs Shure KSM137? Need a utility pair, maybe more for acoustic stuff than anything else, but still need some all arounders. Would probably prefer the KSM141 for omni , but those are too expensive right now.
Also, if a Beyer M88 is too boomy on my voice - what are you doing while tracking? Move it back? HPF? Grab another mic?
I was holding it for scratch vocals and the proximity effect was a little too happening, though I was still careful not to eat the mic. My inclination would be to move it further back, but at that point, wouldn’t a condenser be a better option? There’s no reason I couldn’t put it on a stand and back away a bit, I’m just sort of doing a gut check here.