Bad Brains
Cro-Mags
Minor Threat
Black Flag
T.S.O.L.

Pains me to leave the DKs off the list, but I firmly believe their most specifically hardcore records (In God We Trust & Bedtime for Democracy) suck real bad.

Bad Brains
Dead Kennedys
Charged G.B.H.
Early Hüsker Du
Die Kreuzen

Honorable mention: Cro-Mags and anything with Brian Betzger on drums

Black Flag is indelibly linked to hardcore music, but I thought the later jazz-sludge stuff was better.

Am I the only one who prefers early, creepy, surfy punk DK over their later hardcore leanings?

Like "Holiday in Cambodia" isn't really a hardcore song, but it's a great punk song and an example of all of their strengths.

80s Hardcore! My origin story.

top 5 easy

Bad Brains
Minor Threat
Circle Jerks
Black Flag
SSD (first two records)


those are mine.

Dag Nasty is not a hardcore band, Brian and Smalley involvement notwithstanding.

motorbike guy wrote: Fri Apr 12, 2024 1:45 pm Dag Nasty is not a hardcore band, Brian and Smalley involvement notwithstanding.

I don't think it's a stretch to lump them in somewhere between melodic hardcore/punk stuff like Bad Religion and the youth crew bands. And maybe even emocore when Smalley left.

Youth crew.. blech. I had some high school friends who were way into that stuff, probably still are. It's so cartoonish to me.

Best melodic hardcore album was the first SNFU, IMHO.

penningtron wrote: Fri Apr 12, 2024 2:19 pm

Youth crew.. blech. I had some high school friends who were way into that stuff, probably still are. It's so cartoonish to me.

We can probably credit/blame 7 Seconds (who I like and am listening to right now) for that whole thing

Bad Brains
Minor Threat
Black Flag through Damaged
Hüsker Dü through Metal Circus (and parts of Zen Arcade; Everything Falls Apart is probably my favorite hardcore record tbh)
Die Kreuzen

twelvepoint wrote: Fri Apr 12, 2024 3:05 pm

penningtron wrote: Fri Apr 12, 2024 2:19 pm

Youth crew.. blech. I had some high school friends who were way into that stuff, probably still are. It's so cartoonish to me.

We can probably credit/blame 7 Seconds (who I like and am listening to right now) for that whole thing

I do enjoy some of the parodies:

twelvepoint wrote: Fri Apr 12, 2024 3:05 pm

penningtron wrote: Fri Apr 12, 2024 2:19 pm

Youth crew.. blech. I had some high school friends who were way into that stuff, probably still are. It's so cartoonish to me.

We can probably credit/blame 7 Seconds (who I like and am listening to right now) for that whole thing

Youth Crew is one of those things that should have been one or a few bands' thing, not a fucking genre. It seems that the energetic, drug-free, scene kids seemed hell bent on perpetuating the myth that drugs facilitate creativity.

That said I love Gorilla Biscuits and 7 Seconds. I'm sure if I was in NYC in the 90's I'd be way into Youth of Today, but it doesn't carry across the distance to here and now.