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andyman wrote: Thu Apr 11, 2024 2:28 pm
TylerDeadPine wrote: Thu Apr 11, 2024 1:48 pm
andyman wrote: Thu Apr 11, 2024 3:26 am I managed to get a Laney Pro-tube AOR 30W that was chopped into a head for cheap a few weeks ago. I was halfway into figuring out speakers etc. when I got a message yesterday saying someone has a 50W combo, which I didn't even know existed. Welp. Looks like I'm going to be comparing them now.
I liked the 30w better than the 50. I currently have a 100 head to be silly, but I still think about the 30
I've actually seen people say the opposite. Do tell.

(interestingly the 30w is 6L6s vs EL34s in the 50/100w)

I think those people would be the kind that If Its Not Exactly A Marshall It's Shit And I hate it!

The 30w I had was 6v6. I found it smoother and had a nicer high end. As I write this I realize this may not have all gone through the same speakers - but both me and the other guitar player remember really liking that amp. The 50 was also really good, the 30 just really had something going for it. The effects loop was very usable, but no clue if it was modified.

Re: What are you buying, What's on its way?

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TylerDeadPine wrote: Thu Apr 11, 2024 2:34 pm
andyman wrote: Thu Apr 11, 2024 2:28 pm
TylerDeadPine wrote: Thu Apr 11, 2024 1:48 pm

I liked the 30w better than the 50. I currently have a 100 head to be silly, but I still think about the 30
I've actually seen people say the opposite. Do tell.

(interestingly the 30w is 6L6s vs EL34s in the 50/100w)

Edit: that should have said 6V6s

I think those people would be the kind that If Its Not Exactly A Marshall It's Shit And I hate it!

The 30w I had was 6v6. I found it smoother and had a nicer high end. As I write this I realize this may not have all gone through the same speakers - but both me and the other guitar player remember really liking that amp. The 50 was also really good, the 30 just really had something going for it. The effects loop was very usable, but no clue if it was modified.
Nice. Honestly, I thought it was fizzy and kind of shit until I put it through better speakers and turned it up. It sounded like it was carving out the sky. Amazing.
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Re: What are you buying, What's on its way?

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losthighway wrote: Thu Apr 11, 2024 4:42 pm
llllllllllllllllllll wrote: Thu Apr 11, 2024 3:55 pm
TylerDeadPine wrote: Thu Apr 11, 2024 3:26 pm I lost a few great amps in my youth because of speakers
I thought I hated Celestions because of the GT75
The worst!!!
It’s not a great speaker. I’ll take the much maligned G12M-70 over the G12T-75 every day of the week. I will say, if you crank an amp with the T75 it does sound ok. But man, at lower volumes it is among the worst. It’s just weird and hollow sounding with a raspy high end that sounds like a low sample rate or something. No idea how it became the standard issue.
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Kniferide wrote: Mon Apr 08, 2024 7:34 pm I just bought a pair of PMC 6-02 for 1500...
These arrived this weekend. Here are my (long) thoughts after spending about 2-3 hours doing listening tests.

They seem to be fully functioning and have almost zero cosmetic damage. 1 little scratch on the bottom corner of one but they seem mostly unused. No idea why they were so cheap other than someone at Sweetwater fucked up. As far as sound goes, it is complicated. These are the first true 3 way monitors I have ever owned and that is taking some time to get used to. The low end is like a cannon. Too much at times but I havent played with the hi pass yet. They sound like someone put a nearfield into a sub cab. Seriously the best sounding lows of any monitor I've heard. The high end is what I would describe as... complex? There is a ton of definition that I am not used to hearing and it is distracting, at times to the point of unpleasantness. At a distance of 6 feet (minimum suggested distance) I feel like I am over focusing on each driver as opposed to hearing a whole package. If there is something weird in a mix or source, you hear it immediately and it is nagging. It is not fun to listen to music on these speakers at this distance, but I can see it being helpful for mixing without a doubt. It's not fatiguing, just not pretty to hear. My friend said they sound like wearing good headphones at this distance and I thought that was a good description. Everything is kinda too easy to pick apart.

So at first I was a little bummed and thought, Man, I just don't think I like these at all... then I moved back to about 8-10 feet and fucking A they sound great. The Stereo spread is really wide and there is a depth to the high mids that really is impressive. Acoustic guitar sounds "in the room" on them. Heather and I both love these speaker at this distance and she was sold on them as an idea after about 5 min of listening (she was doubtful, and they are ugly to gaze upon). At distance, the sublows and low mids completely fold and feel like they are shooting straight down the center. They remind me of a well balanced and high quality PA speaker like a Danely a little. Tonally, they are very very balanced, if not a little heavy at around 800hz for me.
Kinda makes guitars a little over aggressive, easy fix with the DSP.

I did a A/B test with Fluid FX80's that were already in the living room. Those are weird little concentric 8" speakers. When I switch, all the dimensionality of the high end collapsed into a single flat plane of sound and I started understanding what monitors like these are really for.

So here is the rub. My space is tiny, about 8'x9' and the sweet spot for these is too far from my sitting position. They are just too big. I'm going to play with them for a couple of weeks just cause, but will probably flip them for something smaller. Maybe some PSI or something. Honestly they are beyond the audio work I do and kinda wasted on me. My next project is looking like it is going to be recorded on a Teac 4 track R2R... wuh'da fugga mi doing with these speakers?

Heather said we could keep them in the living room, and she better be careful about the shit she says, cause I'll do it.
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llllllllllllllllllll wrote: Mon Apr 15, 2024 11:57 am That’s amazing ^ how did you find them?
The listing popped up on Sweetwater used while I was lookin at it. They were listed at 900 bucks so I messaged them to see if the price was correct and for the pair, They took the post down, changed the price to $1500 and messaged me back saying "Thanks for catching that, the item has been relisted at the CORRECT PRICE". I hit the Buy button as fast as I could. After some detective work, this is my theory. If you look at PMC 6-02 new on Sweetwater, it says "we have a demo pair for $9000!" My guess is that this IS that demo pair, and they missed a zero in the original listing. When I checked on it, the dude that changed the listing didn't really know what he was doing or didn't feel like checking... etc, and just added $600 to the sale price. I'm positive someone really fucked up here, but hey... I asked. I fully expect a "um, we goofed" email any day. we shall see.
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