djimbe wrote: Fri Apr 19, 2024 5:20 pm I sold the house in 2019 to a couple from Lincoln Park who were developers and wanted a house in the Indiana Dunes near the beach to get out of the city. I told them about all this and they seemed to brush it off. They did the update I could never afford and sold it last year and I don't know if they passed on the lore to the newest owners.

Well you just need to show up unannounced and make sure the new owners are aware that their house in haunted.

We took a trip to Colorado for a birthday a few years ago and my wife and I (well mostly I) thought it would be cool to stay at the Stanley Hotel which supposedly was the inspiration for the Shining. That night I conked out super early (time change + travel all day + being a parent to two youngish kids) and I was probably passed out by 8PM. I felt like I was hearing kids running / playing in the halls, and thought this is bullshit, it's too late for tours and why are there so many kids in this haunted hotel (at night.)

The next morning we took the tour and heard that the top floor (where we'd been staying) had been where kids would come and stay all summer while their parents were off drinking, hunting, riding horses, fucking or whatever. It was a common experience to hear kids playing in the halls at night.

I don't know if what I heard was ghostly, or just some kids playing, or maybe I dreamed it, but it was pretty creepy. It really did just sound like kids at the time and I had no feeling when it happened that it was paranormal. I half-wondered if the hotel was actually just piping in that kid noise to support the story.

ErikG wrote: Fri Apr 19, 2024 5:08 am

Whats the joke with the hamburglar in the Shining? I googled in case this was some kind of hep post-Grimace shake meme the kids are using, but to no avail.

zorg wrote: Sun Apr 21, 2024 9:25 am Whats the joke with the hamburglar in the Shining? I googled in case this was some kind of hep post-Grimace shake meme the kids are using, but to no avail.

I'm probably wrong because I'm old and dense, but I think that original chunk of the movie is supposed to be weirdly surreal and absurd insanity including some furry eroticism happening and adding the Hamburglar just tips the scale into comedy.

"Eight-year-olds, Dude."

losthighway wrote: Sun Apr 21, 2024 9:54 am

zorg wrote: Sun Apr 21, 2024 9:25 am Whats the joke with the hamburglar in the Shining? I googled in case this was some kind of hep post-Grimace shake meme the kids are using, but to no avail.

I'm probably wrong because I'm old and dense, but I think that original chunk of the movie is supposed to be weirdly surreal and absurd insanity including some furry eroticism happening and adding the Hamburglar just tips the scale into comedy.

Makes sense…in my searching I inadvertently uncovered that this scene is made explicit in the book, where there there is a whole subplot about these characters, apparently…not including the hamburglar.

Thinking of the mythical undersea world of Drexciya, along with the real life tragedy of the Middle Passage and its ensuing horrors one wonders why the ghosts of enslaved Africans (oR tHe IrIsh) haven't wreaked havoc upon America.

The ghosts of the Irish are now having their revenge with the campaign of RFK Jr.

Kind of boring to me as stories, maybe interesting as psychology. Not really interested in "supernatural" stuff generally, but freaky Japanese folklore is cool just for the uncanny visuals.

So Stanley Kubrick famously mused to Stephen King that belief in ghosts is hopeful, although I don't see anybody getting out of the old eternity/oblivion dilemma so easily myself. Personally I think believing your special self must somehow be more than a silly sack of meat is typical of human ego, but I tend to be pretty down on the idea of higher purpose generally, and anyway oblivion seems like the kinder option to me.

For anything to have a beginning but not an end seems wrong, intuitively; almost mathematically. Yeah ok in mathematics technically a ray, but I don't think we're cut from that kind of geometry.