Labour landslidejfv wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 10:38 amYep, hoping for the best for you all. News sources in the US seem to think it’s going to be good news (but of course they have been wrong before).Gramsci wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 4:43 am Fingers crossed in the UK today. For all of Labour’s many flaws seeing the back of the worst government in modern history will be a relief.
clocker bob may 30, 2006 wrote:I think the possibility of interbreeding between an earthly species and an extraterrestrial species is as believable as any other explanation for the existence of George W. Bush.
You'll certainly get no argument from me on that score. Morally bankrupt serial womaniser (and impregnator) who was so publicity-hungry he impersonated a cat on "Celebrity Big Brother".
HeavenIsInYrBeard wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 8:54 pm Even Reform UK have served a useful purpose in splitting the Tory demographic, despite it not being the purpose they intended to serve (or was it?)
No but this seems part of a major push from the right wing think tanks (tufton st etc.) that's happening on several different fronts.HeavenIsInYrBeard wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 8:54 pm Just out of interest, did either of you receive any literature from the Heritage Party? I did - and having never heard of them before, looked them up on Wiki. Christ on a bike, their policies make Nigel Farage look like Jeremy Corbyn.
Dave N. wrote:Most of us are here because we’re trying to keep some spark of an idea from going out.
I disagree about your breakdown of Labour. Of course I’d prefer a socialist Labour Party but the reality is it has always been a coalition of spectrums from the progressive right to socialist left. One of my principles is to not engage in leftist circular firing squads. I’m on the what a lot of people would regard as the “far left” but the libertarian socialist wing. But it’s always better to have a Labour Party in power, then to have the arguments, rather than doctrinal bickering on opposition. The reality is the media here are the Chomskyian definition of Consent Manufacturers.HeavenIsInYrBeard wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 8:54 pm Gramsci, I kind of agree with what both yourself and curry pervert are saying, despite the fact that you're arguing separate points. A Starmer-helmed Labour Party will be 5 % socialist, 60,% neo-liberalist and 35% Tory-Lite. But I'm trying to be at least cautiously hopeful that we've already hit rock bottom and that at least things can't possibly get any worse from here on.
Even Reform UK have served a useful purpose in splitting the Tory demographic, despite it not being the purpose they intended to serve (or was it?) although Starmer is going to have to work long and hard to convince floating voters to give him a second chance in five years' time.
Just out of interest, did either of you receive any literature from the Heritage Party? I did - and having never heard of them before, looked them up on Wiki. Christ on a bike, their policies make Nigel Farage look like Jeremy Corbyn.
clocker bob may 30, 2006 wrote:I think the possibility of interbreeding between an earthly species and an extraterrestrial species is as believable as any other explanation for the existence of George W. Bush.
Local MP, but national embarrassment. Even after the boundary changes (which disadvantaged him) it was still close.
We had a far-right activist and transphobe standing for the 'Party of Women' in what was a clear green / labour fight. She lost her deposit, happily.Gramsci wrote: Fri Jul 05, 2024 4:13 am But bizarrely I got a Conservative leaflet… I live in Corbyn’s Islington North. An insane waste of money.
My favourite description of Mogg was “Haunted Victorian Lamppost.”pldms wrote: Fri Jul 05, 2024 5:10 amLocal MP, but national embarrassment. Even after the boundary changes (which disadvantaged him) it was still close.
Stayed up to see him off, but missed Truss's departure. That is staggering (her majority was more than 25,000.
clocker bob may 30, 2006 wrote:I think the possibility of interbreeding between an earthly species and an extraterrestrial species is as believable as any other explanation for the existence of George W. Bush.
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