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Re: Politics

1581 by Gramsci
Question for Usaians here. Are the loony fringe MAGA weirdos a genuinely large voting block, by that I mean 30-40% of people that vote or is it a very loud minority plus the usual Republicans because I Vote Republican group of Conservatives you get in any society that will happily chuck anyone under the bus for a tax cut?

I have to be honest, the US is increasingly looking like an experimental open air insane asylum.
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Re: Politics

1582 by jfv
Gramsci wrote: Tue Jul 09, 2024 3:20 pm Question for Usaians here. Are the loony fringe MAGA weirdos a genuinely large voting block, by that I mean 30-40% of people that vote or is it a very loud minority plus the usual Republicans because I Vote Republican group of Conservatives you get in any society that will happily chuck anyone under the bus for a tax cut?

I have to be honest, the US is increasingly looking like an experimental open air insane asylum.
From my perspective, living in a very purple exurb of Chicago, and with an extended family that is fairly moderate but generally split in half politically, I do see it as the latter. No one in my extended family, and only one or two folks in my neighborhood of several thousand are "Fuck Your Feelings" flag wavers.

That being said, you hit the nail on the head with how you described it. Republicans - even the ones in my extended family - are a bunch of selfish fucks who vote that way because they perceive they will personally benefit more by doing so.
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Re: Politics

1584 by jfv
Krev wrote: Tue Jul 09, 2024 3:32 pm ...the irony there being that only corporate sleaze are getting those tax cuts.
You are absolutely correct.

I'm pretty sure my middle-class family pays a higher percentage in taxes than we did before the republicans "fixed" the tax code seven or so years ago.
jason (he/him/his) from volo (illinois)

Re: Politics

1587 by Gramsci
I’ve said it a few times here, but until the Dems are willing to reduce precariousness and increase workers’ rights, minimum wage etc y’all are fucked. The current DNC would rather throw America into the sun than commit to public healthcare.

Remember folks the US healthcare system exists to discipline workers by tying access to your employer. It’s not there to actually provide healthcare.

PS not just a foreigner pontificating on US politics. I studied comparative healthcare systems at university in my first political science degree and wrote papers on the differences between the New Zealand public and US private insurance systems.
clocker bob may 30, 2006 wrote:I think the possibility of interbreeding between an earthly species and an extraterrestrial species is as believable as any other explanation for the existence of George W. Bush.

Re: Politics

1588 by losthighway
Gramsci wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2024 3:55 am I’ve said it a few times here, but until the Dems are willing to reduce precariousness and increase workers’ rights, minimum wage etc y’all are fucked. The current DNC would rather throw America into the sun than commit to public healthcare.

Remember folks the US healthcare system exists to discipline workers by tying access to your employer. It’s not there to actually provide healthcare.

PS not just a foreigner pontificating on US politics. I studied comparative healthcare systems at university in my first political science degree and wrote papers on the differences between the New Zealand public and US private insurance systems.
You sit there as a smug outsider and judge our system? Well, lucky for you you're exactly right. Remember when the right wing called Obamacare communism?

Re: Politics

1589 by enframed
Gramsci wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2024 3:55 am Remember folks the US healthcare system exists to discipline workers by tying access to your employer. It’s not there to actually provide healthcare.

PS not just a foreigner pontificating on US politics. I studied comparative healthcare systems at university in my first political science degree and wrote papers on the differences between the New Zealand public and US private insurance systems.
The people who do not want government run healthcare say the reason is they don't want the government deciding on what treatments they are allowed to get, the extreme end of which was "DEATH PANELS!!!"

These people are absolutely OK with a private, for profit insurance company making those decisions, though.
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Re: Politics

1590 by ChudFusk
Lu Zwei wrote: Tue Jul 09, 2024 6:30 am
Anthony Flack wrote: Mon Jul 08, 2024 5:31 pm
ChudFusk wrote: Mon Jul 08, 2024 9:52 am If you don’t understand why Kamala Harris is absolute garbage, then you are not paying enough attention and should limit your commentary to hobbit tossing or whatever you do over there.
You have any idea how many times Americans have talked down to me because of where I come from? I've had enough of that in my career, so you can stick that condescending attitude right up your arse.
Dude, I would take your home place in a heartbeat and change it for this shit hole where I live. That and Norway. I would even rub some Hobbit feet as a "punishment".
Yeah, I thought it was obvious that I was being facetious when I made the jab about being from New Zealand. Most people I know consider that place to be paradise, so I didn’t think anyone would take me seriously. I’m sorry if feelings got hurt, but I have absolutely no prejudice against anyone from NZ. It seems like a great place except for the fact that it’s illegal to be autistic there, and it was also illegal to have AIDS until 2021. Otherwise it seems like a fine country and nobody should feel defensive about being a Kiwi.
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