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Re: Alien vs Aliens

31 by zorg
PASTA wrote: Wed Aug 28, 2024 5:08 pm
Jacques wrote: Wed Aug 28, 2024 10:44 am Both are completely incredible, but I have to go with Alien since I'm more a horror person than an action person.

I do love that part in Aliens where Paul Reiser is like "I'm mad about aliens and I'm mad about you!"

Don't @ me; it's in the director's cut or something.
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Re: Alien vs Aliens

32 by Curry Pervert
M.H wrote: Tue Aug 27, 2024 12:39 pm I think 4 is an unabashedly camp romp and is filled with many entertaining set pieces. I like it quite a bit these days (late 90s nostalgia? Maybe, but not entirely...)

I like 4 for some of the themes. Exploring cloning was interesting as it was large in the public consciousness at the time with the recent clone of Dolly the sheep.
And it keeps you guessing which side Sigourney Weaver's loyalties lay for most of the film, which was a great narrative tool. I think she played the part blindingly too. It's also great that they show just how ruthless and intelligent the aliens are with that scene where two of them attack the other one to use it's 'acid' so they can escape.

M.H wrote: Tue Aug 27, 2024 12:39 pm But you are on bad drugs

I wish!

M.H wrote: Tue Aug 27, 2024 12:39 pm if you think 3 has an edge on 2.
It's just personal preference, for a number of reasons. I'm not big on military shoot-'em-ups. I think I was over exposed to it too. It also has the least interesting story, there's not much in the way of 'what's gonna happen next' - the nearest it gets to genuine suspense is wondering where the next alien is gonna jump out from.
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Re: Alien vs Aliens

33 by Curry Pervert
ChudFusk wrote: Tue Aug 27, 2024 1:07 pm Edit: the more I think about Aliens 3, the less I can think of anything of value in it. The only essential parts are those that tie 2 to 4, which are really just the beginning and end of 3. The inmates were made to be scarier than the xenomorphs (and Weyland Yutani is ostensibly scarier than the inmates) and I don't think that concept is compelling enough to base a film on.
I see it as the flipside to Aliens. In Aliens they had the most high tech firepower and it looked like that wouldn't be enough. In 3 they have what, pieces of wood? It's the polar opposite. As far as anything of value, the camerawork was interesting, giving the Alien POV. It also has a more human element than the others, in that this disparate group of criminals have to find a way to work together to try and survive.
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Re: Alien vs Aliens

34 by strontiumtom
Alien is objectively the better film- even with some of the poorly aged SFX*. The team Jodorowski got together for his unmade Dune was inspired.

I saw Aliens first as a kid and I'm so fond of it. Near perfect example of problem-solution-bigger problem ramping up action story (pipped by T2?)
The sound of SF guns has never been bettered.

For all the wonder and the horror in Alien, the bit that stays with me most out of both is Ash trying to kill Ripley with a rolled-up magazine. So violent, so strange but also an element of the mundane compared to the grand cosmic horror of the Alien itself.

*saw it in a cinema a few years ago and there were a couple of times when the whole place laughed out loud. Annoyingly, it comes to mind whenever I've seen it since. Cut away from the real head, back to the fake head Ridley!
I should add the majority of it still looks incredible.

Re: Alien vs Aliens

36 by Charlie D
Let me preface this by saying that I like Aliens. I have come around to it in the last few years, thanks to a reevaluation prompted by FM Tommy Alpha.
But it doesn't hold a candle to Alien. I want to say they don't even belong in the same franchise.

Alien is a tense, spooky mystery that unravels more and more into full blown horror. It's a crew of a half dozen unarmed people put up against an unstoppable death engine that can't be reasoned with, even communicated with. Essentially, if you see it, you are dead.

Aliens, hey, great action film but not scary and fairly low stakes. That unstoppable agent of the void? Well, let's multiply it by a few hundred and just mow them all down with machine guns. Oh and also? The big bad at the end can communicate and reason.

Oh and also fuck Cameron for pulling out the old "no higher calling than motherhood" trope.

Since nobody asked: Alien 3 is underrated but also is an overcorrection, with its dirt, grime, and bleakness, for the gloss and sheen and toys and happy ending of Aliens.
Curry Pervert wrote: Mon Aug 26, 2024 7:35 pmAliens is a decent film, but it's my least fav of the first 4. I also really like the fourth one, but it seems to get a lot of flack.
That's just a bizarre thing to say. You're comfortable admitting that? In public?
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Re: Alien vs Aliens

37 by strontiumtom
Charlie D wrote: Let me preface this by saying that I like Aliens. I have come around to it in the last few years, thanks to a reevaluation prompted by FM Tommy Alpha.

My guy!

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Charlie D wrote: But it doesn't hold a candle to Alien. I want to say they don't even belong in the same franchise.
Dang. Still some work to do.
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Re: Alien vs Aliens

39 by rsmurphy
I've never seen any other movie in the franchise post-Aliens except for Prometheus which I kind of liked because it made me think about a lot of stuff. It also looked real nice. But this thread got me to thinking about what happened to Newt. I guess she died along with Ripley and I never really thought about what happened to either of them. Weird. Now, I really want to see 3: Alienses. Also want to see the new one because that acid blood hallway sounds cooler than a mug.
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