Isaac wrote: Wed Sep 11, 2024 4:16 pm

Anthony Flack wrote: Wed Sep 11, 2024 3:44 pm Oh well, none of their votes count anyway, just like none of yours probably do.

That's objectively wrong, particularly in closely-contested states where the margin for error is minimal.

If it's just general disillusionment you're speaking to, I get that 100%. Or if it's the willfully standing by while an actual genocide is happening you're (justifiably) frustrated with, I also agree to the hilt.

But votes count.

losthighway wrote: Wed Sep 11, 2024 6:31 pm I'm so sick of politicians and the media talking about inflation with all the depth of "voters are upset about inflation". Everyone who cares enough to use the word inflation should have an idea about three factors:

1. Pandemic scarcity
2. Government stimulus to ward off recession (both presidents)
3. Corporate price hikes

Anthony Flack wrote: Wed Sep 11, 2024 6:33 pm

Isaac wrote: Wed Sep 11, 2024 4:16 pm

Anthony Flack wrote: Wed Sep 11, 2024 3:44 pm Oh well, none of their votes count anyway, just like none of yours probably do.

That's objectively wrong, particularly in closely-contested states where the margin for error is minimal.

If it's just general disillusionment you're speaking to, I get that 100%. Or if it's the willfully standing by while an actual genocide is happening you're (justifiably) frustrated with, I also agree to the hilt.

But votes count.

I'm referring to the electoral college, because no doubt the whole thing will come down to the whims of a few thousand people in Pennsylvania regardless of what anybody else might think.

hbiden@onlyfans.com wrote: Wed Sep 11, 2024 11:59 am

cakes wrote: Wed Sep 11, 2024 8:34 am "They want to perform transfender surgery on illegal immigrants in prisons."

And I thought, "They're eating dogs," was going to be the craziest thing said of the evening.

whats so crazy about that?
you can call it bait (which it was)
you can call it fringe (which it is)
but it's not a lie.

cnn wrote:Harris also wrote that she supported taxpayer funding of gender transition surgeries for detained immigrants and federal prisoners.

Harris was asked if, as president, she would use “executive authority to ensure that transgender and non-binary people who rely on the state for medical care – including those in prison and immigration detention – will have access to comprehensive treatment associated with gender transition, including all necessary surgical care.”

Harris replied, “Yes.”

“It is important that transgender individuals who rely on the state for care receive the treatment they need, which includes access to treatment associated with gender transition,” Harris wrote in a reply expanding on her answer. “That’s why, as Attorney General, I pushed the California Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation to provide gender transition surgery to state inmates,” she wrote.

Harris explained that she supported granting prisoners and detainees access to “surgical care” for gender transition.

“Transition treatment is a medical necessity, and I will direct all federal agencies responsible for providing essential medical care to deliver transition treatment,” she wrote.

Anthony Flack wrote: Wed Sep 11, 2024 3:44 pm The NYT's never-ending quest to measure which side of the mouth undecided voters are drooling out of had their pen of bovines come out in favour of Trump as the better debate performance. Oh well, none of their votes count anyway, just like none of yours probably do.

losthighway wrote: Wed Sep 11, 2024 6:31 pm I'm so sick of politicians and the media talking about inflation with all the depth of "voters are upset about inflation". Everyone who cares enough to use the word inflation should have an idea about three factors:

1. Pandemic scarcity
2. Government stimulus to ward off recession (both presidents)
3. Corporate price hikes

turnbullac wrote: Wed Sep 11, 2024 9:49 pm

losthighway wrote: Wed Sep 11, 2024 6:31 pm I'm so sick of politicians and the media talking about inflation with all the depth of "voters are upset about inflation". Everyone who cares enough to use the word inflation should have an idea about three factors:

1. Pandemic scarcity
2. Government stimulus to ward off recession (both presidents)
3. Corporate price hikes

Remember when chump wanted his picture on the stimulus checks? Shouldn’t it also be on the inflation that it helped cause too?

enframed wrote: Wed Sep 11, 2024 9:46 pm

Anthony Flack wrote: Wed Sep 11, 2024 3:44 pm The NYT's never-ending quest to measure which side of the mouth undecided voters are drooling out of had their pen of bovines come out in favour of Trump as the better debate performance. Oh well, none of their votes count anyway, just like none of yours probably do.

The NYT wrote that Trump had the better performance? Link?

Frankie99 wrote: Wed Sep 11, 2024 9:26 pm

hbiden@onlyfans.com wrote: Wed Sep 11, 2024 11:59 am

cakes wrote: Wed Sep 11, 2024 8:34 am "They want to perform transfender surgery on illegal immigrants in prisons."

And I thought, "They're eating dogs," was going to be the craziest thing said of the evening.

whats so crazy about that?
you can call it bait (which it was)
you can call it fringe (which it is)
but it's not a lie.

cnn wrote:Harris also wrote that she supported taxpayer funding of gender transition surgeries for detained immigrants and federal prisoners.

Harris was asked if, as president, she would use “executive authority to ensure that transgender and non-binary people who rely on the state for medical care – including those in prison and immigration detention – will have access to comprehensive treatment associated with gender transition, including all necessary surgical care.”

Harris replied, “Yes.”

“It is important that transgender individuals who rely on the state for care receive the treatment they need, which includes access to treatment associated with gender transition,” Harris wrote in a reply expanding on her answer. “That’s why, as Attorney General, I pushed the California Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation to provide gender transition surgery to state inmates,” she wrote.

Harris explained that she supported granting prisoners and detainees access to “surgical care” for gender transition.

“Transition treatment is a medical necessity, and I will direct all federal agencies responsible for providing essential medical care to deliver transition treatment,” she wrote.

If the state takes responsibility for a humans life against their will, deniying them health care is criminal last I checked. The question here is poisoned from the beginning and playing into that is a failure of the media. Again.