Polls, especially from news sites, seemed to be designed to keep engagement as much as portraying voter intentions.


I predict:

Harris 95m

trump 55m


Approx.

Curry Pervert wrote: Sun Sep 22, 2024 12:38 pm Polls, especially from news sites, seemed to be designed to keep engagement as much as portraying voter intentions.


I predict:

Harris 95m

trump 55m


Aprox.

that would be a margin of error so large it's conspiratorial. it would put every pollster immediately out of business.

hbiden@onlyfans.com wrote: Sun Sep 22, 2024 12:44 pm

Curry Pervert wrote: Sun Sep 22, 2024 12:38 pm Polls, especially from news sites, seemed to be designed to keep engagement as much as portraying voter intentions.


I predict:

Harris 95m

trump 55m


Aprox.

that would be a margin of error so large it's conspiratorial. it would put every pollster immediately out of business.

Yeah that’s a little much.

But you only have to look back 8 years to see how wrong polls can be. They were predicting Clinton to win easily.

Then people showed up to vote for Trump. And lots of people didn’t bother going to vote or voted third party because who the hell WANTED to vote for Clinton at that point?

Approximately half of my extended family is republican and none of them *want* to vote for Trump. It’s been 12 years since someone not named Trump was the republican nominee.

Yeah, we're lucky we managed to get MMP. Always lucky when a referendum doesn't choose the worst option. Probably wouldn't have managed it in the age of social media; you know there would be a massive misinformation campaign against it.

The UK referendum on electoral reform was absolutely disgusting. You had the Prime Minister, David Cameron, going around the country telling actual lies about how the proposed system would work, claiming that it would give supporters of fringe parties more votes than voters of mainstream parties. David Cameron is not so stupid as to misunderstand how the proposed system would work - a single transferrable vote is a SINGLE VOTE, it's even in the fucking name - but he obviously thought the electorate was stupid enough for him to go around telling lies about it. And as it turns out, they WERE stupid enough.

Sometime after, having completely screwed the country through his incompetent mismanagement, David Cameron fucks off.

Yep. Politics in the UK give the US a run for most stupid in a G7 country.

The British media is also hot garbage.

hbiden@onlyfans.com wrote: Sun Sep 22, 2024 12:28 pm walz's message is, "we can't have four more years of this!" trump is saying don't reelect harris and harris is saying don't reelect trump but neither one has a plan.

Trump has a plan, Project 2025. Harris, I don't know if people actually want her to come out and say "we're probably going to lose the Senate so in all honesty I won't be able to achieve fuck all, but at least we can stop the country from completely disintegrating for four more years".

Anthony Flack wrote: Sun Sep 22, 2024 3:32 pm Trump has a plan, Project 2025.

But because he "doesn't know anything about it", he actually has to say that he only has "a concept of a plan".

hbiden@onlyfans.com wrote: Sun Sep 22, 2024 12:28 pm
since everyone agrees they were better off in 2019
walz's message is, "we can't have four more years of this!" trump is saying don't reelect harris and harris is saying don't reelect trump but neither one has a plan.

Does everyone agree?

I think both have something of a plan (concept of a plan?). Trump's is mass deportations and tariffs to fix everything, Harris has mostly vague plans. One could assume some slight modifications on the current status quo. Some curious ideas to battle the housing crisis (unlikely to do much there), continuing the Biden project of wrestling down prescription drug costs which has had some positives already (likely to work some more notches there).

losthighway wrote: Sun Sep 22, 2024 4:10 pm

hbiden@onlyfans.com wrote: Sun Sep 22, 2024 12:28 pm
since everyone agrees they were better off in 2019
walz's message is, "we can't have four more years of this!" trump is saying don't reelect harris and harris is saying don't reelect trump but neither one has a plan.

Does everyone agree?

Is that the right question to ask?

Roe v Wade wasn't overturned until 2022, but its overturning was only possible due to shit that happened between 2016-2020.

We're going to be feeling the (negative) effects of 4 years of Trump for a long time.

oh yeah i forgot trump's plan to appoint elon as commissioner of government efficiency. there's one thing he'll admit to.

the answer is 25% of americans say they were worse off when biden/harris took office. and all those people know that they are in the lucky minority there.

you may be right that these problems (abortion, ukraine, israel, inflation, crime, covid) were outside of biden's control. but then what did he accomplish? i guess he saved democracy for another 4 years. i'll be generous and give him that.