Kniferide wrote: Thu Oct 03, 2024 6:55 pm

thecr4ne wrote: Wed Aug 28, 2024 3:52 pm Tascam made a 1U multitrack recorder. Would love one of these for an olde-school workflow. Track and mix to this with an analog console and outboard gear without staring at a screen.

https://tascam.com/us/product/da-6400/top

$4000. Ha. Nope. You can track to Reaper or any other DAW without ever looking at the screen if you want to, especially if you have a faderport or like device. Hell, There is a Otari 24track 2" recorder for sale here in Portland for $5500 right now. This device seems to focus on record and playback locked to Timecode, so I'm imagining it is best at grabbing multi track for large stage productions or multi camera shoots. I see no evidence that it can do punch ins or overdubs and I would not be surprised if it cannot. You could get a used Tascam 2424 for $500 and modify it for modern hard drives. FM Numberthirty likes the Alesis version of the same thing and they can also be modified to use modern hard drives.

20 tracks binches

https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail ... r-recorder

Kniferide wrote: Thu Oct 03, 2024 6:55 pm I see no evidence that it can do punch ins or overdubs and I would not be surprised if it cannot.

I'd be surprised if it can't do punch ins.

Curry Pervert wrote: Thu Oct 03, 2024 9:59 pm

Kniferide wrote: Thu Oct 03, 2024 6:55 pm I see no evidence that it can do punch ins or overdubs and I would not be surprised if it cannot.

I'd be surprised if it can't do punch ins.

I would not be surprised because from reading about it it does not seem like it was designed as a studio recording tool at all. it seems like a large format playback sync device and media capture device. I don't see a easy way to arm disarm tracks on the fly from the front face so if you can do it you gotta do it from that tiny menu. seems like it would suck for it. Tascam makes that stand alone mixer what multitracks, it would be a better solution and actually cheaper.

Kniferide wrote: Fri Oct 04, 2024 3:33 pm I would not be surprised because from reading about it it does not seem like it was designed as a studio recording tool at all. it seems like a large format playback sync device and media capture device. I don't see a easy way to arm disarm tracks on the fly from the front face so if you can do it you gotta do it from that tiny menu. seems like it would suck for it. Tascam makes that stand alone mixer what multitracks, it would be a better solution and actually cheaper.

Ah, ok. I was thinking it was more like the studio machines.

thecr4ne wrote: Wed Aug 28, 2024 3:52 pm Tascam made a 1U multitrack recorder. Would love one of these for an olde-school workflow. Track and mix to this with an analog console and outboard gear without staring at a screen.

https://tascam.com/us/product/da-6400/top

I own and use Tascam DA-6400's. They are fantastic for their specific purpose (high channel-count recording).

I have one for sale right now:

https://reverb.com/item/84536294-tascam ... k-recorder

It's the version with dual power supplies. PRF discount is always on the table.

Curry Pervert wrote: Fri Oct 04, 2024 10:30 pm

Kniferide wrote: Fri Oct 04, 2024 3:33 pm I would not be surprised because from reading about it it does not seem like it was designed as a studio recording tool at all. it seems like a large format playback sync device and media capture device. I don't see a easy way to arm disarm tracks on the fly from the front face so if you can do it you gotta do it from that tiny menu. seems like it would suck for it. Tascam makes that stand alone mixer what multitracks, it would be a better solution and actually cheaper.

Ah, ok. I was thinking it was more like the studio machines.

You are correct, the 6400 does not do overdubs. It's a very robust device to record (and/or play back) a lot of channels.

If you want a digital tape machine situation, DAWs are still pretty hard to beat. I own several RADARs that I intend to sell pretty soon.
I'll make sure to post here when get them ready to sell, I'm prepared to let them go for a song.

https://www.gearnews.com/tascam-studio- ... ding-live/

This is the new tascam studio recording solution. I like that it looks like a standard tape remote. For under a grand it's a 24/24 USB Io with direct SD recording as well. Sort of a useful thing I guess. I do no really fully understand a stand alone digital multi track since you can very literally just use any DAW to do just that. Anyway... Here this thing is.

Kniferide wrote: Tue Oct 22, 2024 10:55 am I do no really fully understand a stand alone digital multi track since you can very literally just use any DAW to do just that. Anyway... Here this thing is.

DAWs crash, computers crash, computers are shit, they need updates, they hold you hostage and force you to upgrade the software, then the hardware, and then the software again because it’s not supported on the new blah blah blah. Recording to SD and then dumping to a DAW has never let me down. I went through hell with Avid, Logic Pro, Apple, and Focusrite, and then I got a Zoom LiveTrak L-12 and got my life back. It’s like recording to tape and the ln bouncing to a DAW. Easy peasy.

I’m already setup how I’m setup, but I could see loving that setup if I had a bunch of channels being recorded at once with people playing together.

It may just be my limited understanding, but I mostly like that it seems to force a situation that demands edits and other daw fixes later. I’m sure it’s still capable of punch-ins and all that though.

ChudFusk wrote: Tue Oct 22, 2024 1:11 pm

Kniferide wrote: Tue Oct 22, 2024 10:55 am I do no really fully understand a stand alone digital multi track since you can very literally just use any DAW to do just that. Anyway... Here this thing is.

DAWs crash, computers crash, computers are shit, they need updates, they hold you hostage and force you to upgrade the software, then the hardware, and then the software again because it’s not supported on the new blah blah blah.

meh, I'm recording on a Computer I built 6 years ago and have never had an issue bad enough to stop a session. I see the value of having a stand alone recorder and dumping to a DAW to mix, but in my workflow that is just inserting another piece of hardware BETWEEN the mics and the computer and another hoop to jump through. That's just one more point of failure to account for. It's Tascam. It eventually will fail. And I've had plenty of hardware failures.

Not saying it doesn't have its place, it just doesn't have a place for me. I'd probably just buy a Allen Heath CQ18t and use it to multitrack onto SD, get a mixer out of the deal too. This Tascam doesn't do enough for me, maybe if it had some basic preamps it would make a good mobile rig but as is you need 24 preamps to use it.