This feature length investigation by Al Jazeera’s Investigative Unit exposes Israeli war crimes in the Gaza Strip through the medium of photos and videos posted online by Israeli soldiers themselves during the year long conflict.

I thought it could have gone further tbh.


This is also a good piece about media complicity:

I'm not going to watch this, but I think anybody with a heart can draw conclusions without it requiring further investigation. Somebody should instead make a documentary on what one can do realistically to make it stop besides sleeping in a tent on a Universtity lawn, or just hoping to avoid the conversation..

zorg wrote: Tue Oct 08, 2024 11:20 am I'm not going to watch this, but I think anybody with a heart can draw conclusions without it requiring further investigation. Somebody should instead make a documentary on what one can do realistically to make it stop besides sleeping in a tent on a Universtity lawn, or just hoping to avoid the conversation..

BDS movement.
Contact your local representative and put pressure on them. Get as many people as you can to do the same.
Join protests.
Spread the word - still too many that go along with the 'official' narrative.


That's probably about it really, unless you want to start breaking the law. Some groups in the UK have been successful in shutting down weapons factories. Might only be for a day or two mostly, but one of Elbit Systems factories has shut down altogether. Of course, you then face arrest and prosecution, which can be a bit of a lottery in itself.

Curry Pervert wrote: Tue Oct 08, 2024 11:47 am

zorg wrote: Tue Oct 08, 2024 11:20 am I'm not going to watch this, but I think anybody with a heart can draw conclusions without it requiring further investigation. Somebody should instead make a documentary on what one can do realistically to make it stop besides sleeping in a tent on a Universtity lawn, or just hoping to avoid the conversation..

BDS movement.
Contact your local representative and put pressure on them. Get as many people as you can to do the same.
Join protests.
Spread the word - still too many that go along with the 'official' narrative.


That's probably about it really, unless you want to start breaking the law. Some groups in the UK have been successful in shutting down weapons factories. Might only be for a day or two mostly, but one of Elbit Systems factories has shut down altogether. Of course, you then face arrest and prosecution, which can be a bit of a lottery in itself.

Right, but what you need is a documentary that combats the "ugh, this won't be as easy as putting an "all genders" sign on the toilet at Chipotle." mentality. Whatever that is. I get the feeling it would have to involve John Cena and some kind of idiotic meme only my children understand.

zorg wrote: Tue Oct 08, 2024 12:04 pm Right, but what you need is a documentary that combats the "ugh, this won't be as easy as putting an "all genders" sign on the toilet at Chipotle." mentality. Whatever that is. I get the feeling it would have to involve John Cena and some kind of idiotic meme only my children understand.

We live in an age of soundbites and short attention spans.

This obviously needs to exist. The dark part is that the overlap between people who need to watch it and people who are going to watch it is like, what, ten people? Documentary filmmaking in general struggles with crossing that divide.

I'm not sure what the answer is.

Ace K wrote: Thu Oct 10, 2024 2:18 am This obviously needs to exist. The dark part is that the overlap between people who need to watch it and people who are going to watch it is like, what, ten people? Documentary filmmaking in general struggles with crossing that divide.

I'm not sure what the answer is.

Education.

Both of these docs are essential, as is the new Fault Lines short Starving Gaza and especially The Night Won't End, a remarkable and unforgettable film.

That said, I share the sentiment that those who need to watch stuff like this mostly won't, and the rest of us aren't morally obligated to do so. I understand not wanting to repeatedly subject yourself to vicarious trauma. We could debate the value of "bearing witness", but for me it's not really a choice; I would feel even worse looking away. And even though I was already well aware what's what, I've still learned so much about the Palestinian struggle in the last year, including from these films.

I've spent most of my adult life wrestling with the gulf between the world I want to live in and the dispositional or physical limitations on my ability to help bring it about, but never more so than this last year. Besides going to protests, I've mainly been educating / propagandizing my friends and family with media like this. None of them are rabid Zionists, but many are normies or potentially susceptible to "it's complicated" hasbara, or their social circles include such people. All of them have shown significant shifts in attitudes, and in some cases action. Obviously none of this amounts to a hill of beans, but it's the only thing keeping me from losing what's left of my mind.

Curry Pervert wrote: Some groups in the UK have been successful in shutting down weapons factories. Might only be for a day or two mostly, but one of Elbit Systems factories has shut down altogether.

BDS Boston has also managed to drive Elbit out of Cambridge, seemingly for good.

Isadore Nabi wrote: Thu Oct 10, 2024 3:52 pmWe could debate the value of "bearing witness", but for me it's not really a choice; I would feel even worse looking away.

That concept is something that I've kind of abandoned in my own life. As a lawyer, I gotta look at bad shit in order to know the specifics without any moral valence; as an organizer, I don't need to see another black man shot by a cop or another Palestinian killed by a bomb to know that it is evil and to work against it.