M.H wrote: Mon Sep 23, 2024 10:34 am

Rocky Rockbottom wrote: Sun Sep 22, 2024 12:45 am Easy enough Crap vote for me.

Sure, "Killing In The Name" is hard to deny....but alllllll the rest is very, very easy to deny

That's the worst song on the debut.

True.

And it's not one of these cases when a song is so overplayed that in the end you hate it; it really is the "worst" song on that album.

I'm listening to the debut now. Weird amalgam of Sabbath, Funkadelic and PE. It's not amazing overall, but stuff like "Settle for Nothing" goes hard. Some of Tom Morello's lead stuff is really good.

Absolutely horrendous, wooden drummer. Almost as bad as the guy from the Chili Peppers. I never listened thru that Black Sabbath album he played on because his lead hands were so noticeable.

First two albums got a lot of play when I was a teen, always thought their cover of "Renegades of Funk" was really inspired too. Only ever saw Morello play with Street Sweeper, but that guy's idea of a guitar solo was pretty eye-opening when I was first learning the thing. A 90's version of Jeff Beck or something.

Not Crap, high waffles

I always thought the drummer just did it well enough, serving the songs kinda.

This is a scorcher, specially that las minute or so;

RATM are closer to 311 than is defensible.

zorg wrote: Fri Oct 25, 2024 11:51 am RATM are closer to 311 than is defensible.

amber is the color of my hatorade

Yucca Alta wrote: Fri Oct 25, 2024 1:08 pm

vockins, from the forum archive

You have got to be kidding me. Rage Against The Machine sucks goat ass. Total abortion. Among the worst.

This guy sucks. Shit sounds like a Sega Genesis playing guitar. Innovative like a fucking new cell phone ring tone. Funky like a waiting in line at a bank.

I'd cut off my pinky with a garden weasel if it meant this dude was never heard again, ever. Shit sucks.

barf BARRRRFFFF

This quote is even better if you read it aloud with a Zach de la Whoozits cadence and yelp.


Also, my strongest memory of this band involves living in Seattle and overhearing irritating alterna-jock neighborbros repeat the chorus to Bulls on Parade to get pumped while loading up the SUVs to go see Rage at the Gorge.

very forthcoming with his opinions. i don't see any facade or holding back here.



TM: should music be political? no, it should be authentic.

it was at the first show we were playing at a punk rock living room party in Huntington Beach.
Someone's parents made the mistake of going away and a friend of Timmy's said, "Does your new band want to play?"
And I played in a lot of bands in my life.
And we were set up in a living room, with some kids watching through the living room window behind us, they moved the armoire out to the side.
And the first song we played in front of people was Take the Power Back and starts with the baseline.
Tim's all jacked up.
It's twice as fast as it was later to be on record.
And when the beat dropped, the room exploded.
I mean the room exploded from the 1st snare hit and there was a huge mosh pit in the living room.

BC: I view us as a lost generation because we had a mandate and a mantle and whatever happened, whether it was Kurt's death or the shifting tides, including the beginning of Napster and all that stuff
So what's your general take on, let's call it
Because one thing...I like to try to be trendy with my quotes, but I've been saying Gen. X is yet to have a second act.
I don't know if that resonates with you.

TM: Yeah, well, I would say from a cultural/musical point of view, and I won't say I blame it, but I think an explanation might lie in something that we could call punk rock guilt.
And that part of what made the forerunners of the various branches from that tree from the Pumpkins to Rage to Tool, Nine Inch Nails, Soundgarden, Nirvana, etc..., was there was a familiarity in that we all had maybe Kiss and Sabbath records.
At least one dude in the band cared about that a lot.
But there was also a love of Minor Threat and Fugazi and Bad Brains and it was those conflicting ideology when the music's married well to make festival crowds go absolutely bananas and feel something that they couldn't have ever felt before with just metal or with just punk.
A real synergy of awesome kickass music with ideas, art and poetry.
But the people who made it were so conflicted about their own success.
And when you're playing in an arena that Poison played five years ago, there was so much hand wringing.
But I mean, you just have to look at the release schedules.
I think you [BC] put out maybe more records, but Rage Records came out every five years, Tool Records every six years, Nirvana records, with a lot of guilt, every so often.
And it was just like we couldn't.
There was a part of the ethos that was "I can't stand the success that is happening because it makes me feel like I've betrayed principles."

the musical success, in my view, of Rage Against the Machine is that it was a Hard Rock, punk version of the James Brown formula.
Everything comes back to the one.
It's the one, the one, the one, the one
There may not be a chord change in the catalogue of Rage Against the Machine.

plus so much black sabbath, judas priest, and mc5 talk that i don't know where to start.

You fuckin' love Billy Corgan, man.