The crapness of both bands doesn't make this film crap - in fact just like the Metallica documentary, the crapness of the subjects' music just amplifies the not-crapness of the movie.

greenlander wrote:The crapness of both bands doesn't make this film crap - in fact just like the Metallica documentary, the crapness of the subjects' music just amplifies the not-crapness of the movie.

So eloquently put!

Great documentary. I want to rent the Dvd with all the extra footage.

Has anyone seen the extra stuFF? any good?

also, no matter how pissed you are at your bandmates.....

never throw down someone elses equipment.

That shit is not cool, unless you start swinging it at the person you're

pissed off at. Thats scary and cool! DIG! = NOT CRAP

a friend of mine purchased the dvd and reports it is very disappointing. if you've seen the movie, you've seen the good stuff pretty much.

shagboy wrote:what's wrong with the music of BJM? i started a crap/not crap on 'em and people were hittin' that crap button fast. just curious.

To me BJM sounds like the kind of classic rock parody you could make up as you go along - Oasis-level ripoff tunes, with little regard for details like pitch or rhythm.

Half the fun of the movie was listening to people describing Anton as a "genius," over and over again, completely straight-faced.

I agree with the common sentiment. I really enjoyed this.

The best part is that I really don't care much about either band. That way I could watch this with a neutral outlook. I din't go into this wanting one to "win" over the other. A perfect controlled group experiment.

I really don't see why Anton is this Great Genius. The music sounds really derivitive.
I love the idea that he still belives in the indie process though.

I guess the Dandies seem nice enough, albeit a little vapid. I'm guessing that the only one I'd ever have three things to say to is the guitarist who isn't Courtney. He seemed OK.

The point is that this was shot *before* either band had much label interest, so we get to see the A&R process in real time, and not with a retrospective eye.

A thoroughly enjoyable watch.

hey - i'll ruin the only decent thing that was tacked onto the dvd.

i have to preface this by saying i'm not normally moved by all the world trade center tirbute garbage, and "oh, this video was shot on the morning of sept. 10th..." i think that's all crap, and just tries to get one last stir in the festering pot of faux patriotism.

however... this one deleted scene has anton sitting on a rooftop in new york, and he's talking about how he wants his music to move people to experience the greatest depths of happiness and sadness. and when he starts talking about the sadness, he also is like "people need to feel these extremes, like hatred and death and killing" or something like that. just as he's saying that the camera pans back and you see the twin towers in the background.

that even made me go "whoa..."

so there. i ruined it for you. sorry!

Saw this tonight.
The film, she was not so bad.
I've always thought the Dandy Warhols was a great name for a band that bad because it's almost as in bad taste as their music.
Brian Jonestown Massacre is a kind of neat name for a band that might not be so bad if they were ever in tune. I do have to give them some props for calling their second album Their Satanic Majesties' Second Request simply because it's almost so stupid that the joke works.
Overall, the movie was NOT CRAP

bellulah wrote:that even made me go "whoa..."

i had sort of a similar moment when i first heard that Ex album Dizzy Spells (recorded before 9-11) with the opening song that goes something like, "no chance for things to change / unless buildings get hit by planes." seemed sorta prophetic, in a secular kind of way.

granted, 9-11 was hardly the first instance of a plane or jet crashing into building, and really if you think about it, not much has changed (at least for the better) since then, but the overall effect was certainly a bit eerie.

Sorry, I didn't realize this was an old thread that was revived, and I just noticed that I posted way back when. I'm editing this post to remove my redundant comments. Not sure how to delete it.

Man, this was really irritating to watch. I'm surprised no one has mentioned how annoying that Joel guy from BJM was/is. What a wanker. Just as it started to be too much, there'd be some classic scene, like:

-Poor Courtney Taylor almost crying about his hit-making skills, and Capitol's lack of appreciating them
-"They broke my fucking sitar!"
-The kick to the head
-"If I'd only been just a little bit smarter"

It's hilarious how these bands always end up fucking themselves in the end by signing to a major label. It's like putting your hand in a garbage disposal and complaining that it hurts.