How about my nuts vs your chin?
Re: Perfection. What is it? Flipper or Steely Dan?
42Eww that went hard
Anyway, FM Bernardo, feel free to start new threads if you don't like this one.
jason (he/him/his) from volo (illinois)
Re: Perfection. What is it? Flipper or Steely Dan?
43Back to the topic.
Singling out Steely Dan for being studio perfectionists is sort of silly. Spending months, if not a year, in the studio was/is the norm for the "big time" artists from the '70s onward. How much money and time did Tusk take to record (...though I'm contradicting myself a bit as Tusk is intentionally not perfect)?
Aside from their first couple of albums, i.e., when they were an actual band, I just generally don't like Steely Dan's music. For me, that's the defining factor - not the process, but the end product. I do admit that Fagen's lyrics and subject matter are almost always interesting though.
Anyway, Black Sabbath's s/t album was recorded in a day. It's as close to perfect as music should be, i.e., not perfect but awesome. But I love plenty of albums that I'm sure were labored over for months that are just as "perfect".
Singling out Steely Dan for being studio perfectionists is sort of silly. Spending months, if not a year, in the studio was/is the norm for the "big time" artists from the '70s onward. How much money and time did Tusk take to record (...though I'm contradicting myself a bit as Tusk is intentionally not perfect)?
Aside from their first couple of albums, i.e., when they were an actual band, I just generally don't like Steely Dan's music. For me, that's the defining factor - not the process, but the end product. I do admit that Fagen's lyrics and subject matter are almost always interesting though.
Anyway, Black Sabbath's s/t album was recorded in a day. It's as close to perfect as music should be, i.e., not perfect but awesome. But I love plenty of albums that I'm sure were labored over for months that are just as "perfect".
jason (he/him/his) from volo (illinois)
Re: Perfection. What is it? Flipper or Steely Dan?
44To Bernardo's point there used to be tons of gatekeep-y PRF threads on why we were or weren't supposed to like this or that, etc. Shit can be exhausting. Like what you like and be secure with it.
Next up: threads about which artists have sold out.
Next up: threads about which artists have sold out.
Re: Perfection. What is it? Flipper or Steely Dan?
45LOLpenningtron wrote: Wed Jan 15, 2025 1:23 pm To Bernardo's point there used to be tons of gatekeep-y PRF threads on why we were or weren't supposed to like this or that, etc. Shit can be exhausting. Like what you like and be secure with it.
Next up: threads about which artists have sold out.
Though, isn't that sort of an inherent part of C/NC?
My reply to Bernardo was genuine, not intended to be smart-assery. I like talking about stuff with all of you.
jason (he/him/his) from volo (illinois)
Re: Perfection. What is it? Flipper or Steely Dan?
46Thank you. Gunna check this out. I don't think I've ever really listened to Black Sabbath.
Re: Perfection. What is it? Flipper or Steely Dan?
48How about an old-school hip hop group called RUN D.A.N.?ChudFusk wrote: Mon Jan 13, 2025 9:07 pmHow about a outlaw country SD cover band called Steely Dang?penningtron wrote: Mon Jan 13, 2025 10:48 amI'd probably go see Sloppy Dan.Carl wrote: Mon Jan 13, 2025 10:30 am Would see a Steely Dan covers band played like Flipper (Will Shatter era).
Might join a Steely Dan covers band played like Flipper.
How about a math rock SD cover band called Steely Don Caballero?
How about a goth rock SD cover band called Steely Danzig?
How about a nerd rock (think TMBG) SD cover band called Irony Daniel?
How about I shut up now?
Re: Perfection. What is it? Flipper or Steely Dan?
49Don't ask me. I'm the guy that thinks Dead Moon Records are perfect.
Re: Perfection. What is it? Flipper or Steely Dan?
50No. This is exactly what we're talking about.RyanZ wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2025 7:57 am Don't ask me. I'm the guy that thinks Dead Moon Records are perfect.
...except you forgot to mention abuse on some level.