M.H wrote: Wed Sep 21, 2022 3:59 pm

jakethesnake wrote: Wed Sep 21, 2022 7:44 am Orgasmatron may be fairly typical, Laswells weird production gives it a unique feel ... and records like Rock'n'roll, ....We are Motörhead etc. are only for the most die-hard of the die-hards

I agree with nearly all of your post except:

1. IMO Orgasmatron is a stinker - the band haven't quite figured out their dynamic as a four piece but their efforts are ruined by Laswell's horrific production - so many baffling, unsympathetic choices.

This, March Or Die or Hammered are the three where they really miss the mark (though 'I Ain't No Nice Guy' is one of my favourite songs ever by anybody - play that fucker loud when they burn my body, please).

2. Rock 'n' Roll and We Are Motorhead have some very strong stuff but are a bit hindered by poor sequencing - the weak stuff is all bunched up at the front, but they both get real good from the middle.

If the only great thing in that tune was the fact that it is not the figurative "Trip..." but the literal trip through your life that "Leads to a fall..."

It would still be one of the single best bits of writing ever. Never mind that it happens in a tune that is already stellar.

Past that?

This is Motorhead reworking a song for a kid's show soundtrack.



"I was born underwater/without a sound..."?

That line is no joke.

Motorhead had a cameo on the Young Ones. If that doesn't solidify your vote, I don't know what else will.

Wow, rough one. I think it's kind of apples and oranges. I love 'em both but for different reasons.

Motorhead is like AC/DC. You really don't want them to fuck with the formula too much. The music suffers the further away they get from the template. Who the hell wants AC/DC to start doing power ballads or prog epics? No one.

Same with Lemmy and co. Orgasmatron was a neat experiment but it's still Motorhead so it's still badass. Glad they didn't go too far down that road though.

Hawkwind on the other hand never shied away from experimentation. Their sound was loose enough to shift around without losing their basic integrity. They didn't always succeed but at least they tried.

As much as I love Motorhead I have to go with Hawkwind, mainly because the four albums (and various singles) they did with Lemmy are so deeply embedded in my psyche that they color nearly everything I listen to and play.

Holy grail:

kicker_of_elves wrote: Motorhead had a cameo on the Young Ones. If that doesn't solidify your vote, I don't know what else will.

OK, but Hawkwind and Marillion are Neil's favorite bands, so...

I've been back on a Motorhead and Hawkwind kick again. The prime-era material of both bands always sounds good. I think Orgasmatron is a very strong record in spite of Laswell's production.

As a young kid, I bought March or Die on tape, and almost wrote off Motorhead. Thankfully, I heard the good shit after.

The outro to this 90's gem presaged America in 2025:

Orgasmatron is my favorite Motorhead track. I got lost in the sound, lyrics and delivery. It's a trance. The cymbals sound like you're being whipped.

This song alone makes me pick Motorhead.

For the Motorhead fans, don't sleep on the Nö Sleep at All live album. Lemmy was in fine, vulgar form there.

Motorhead all the way.

Also, the cover of Bowie's "Heros" fucking slaps.