looks good Intern_8033. I might have more useful comments later, but I just wanted to say that the (new?) red jumpsuits are wicked, man.

I agree completely! A job truly well-done and deserving of inclusion on this informative website.

One note of importance for me when documenting sessions is to note specific adjustments to each mic. For instance, there are alot of variables to AKG 414s. What pattern were they set to and were the hi pass filters or pads engaged, and if so, to what settings? Same for the SM98.

Just a note. Excellent job!

Chris Garges
Charlotte, NC

Also, because I had a post a while back about the kick batter mic issue, I have a particular interest in Russ' technique. Just out of curiousity, was he ducking the kick mic on the way to tape or just monitoring that way?

Thanks!

Chris Garges

Intern,

You've done an incredible job. I admire your dedication to "doing things right". I think the links to the different pieces of equipment are unnecessary and would gladly give them up to save you the energy you would need to maybe include a few more equipment details...

Thanks for your hard work. It's definitely an entertaining and informative piece...


Dan

intern-

i commend you for your fine work. indespensible even. it's this type of attitude that should propel you to the upper escehlon of the intern caste. then, you just might make it to the serfs in your next life.

though - if the setup is still intact - i'd like to see the placement of the drum ambient mics if not a huge trouble. and i agree about the links to mics and such - it's helpful a bit - but much more of a frill that i'd rather give up for more pictures/discussion. we're all big kids and can make our way over to the equipment list if we want to learn more.

outstanding work.

-nick

Nice work, Intern. I have to say, though, if that particular drummer walked into one of my sessions, I think I would be inclined to pull out the shittiest mics I could find. He's what musicians refer to as a "clubber." Didn't he write that song "Walk Loudly and Carry a Big Dick"??

Seriously, though, I have a question about mic placement. From the pictures, it appears that the tom mics are more or less parallel to the head of the drum (i.e. they're pointing straight down at the head, a few inches in from the shell). The snare mic looks to be in a similar position, but aimed more toward the center of the drum. Why do you suppose Russ did this? Do you think it's because a snare drum emits less tone than a tom tom, or is it to prevent Rummy from whacking the snare mic (he smells fear and snuffs it out)? Maybe both?

Hey man, it was a pretty picture show... and nice to read.

For a fellow like me, it'd be interesting to get the why of mic placement choices. For instance, I would ask the following questions given a non-annoying window of possibility: Why are the overheads that distance from the top of the kit? Why are the overheads delayed 20ms? Is that to bring them into time-coherence with the ambient mics, or was that not an issue?

That's the kind of stuff that pokes at my brain.

Also, Mr. 8033, if the dimentions to the Electrical/Dietz 1-15 bass cabinets are kicking around anywhere, feel free to post them.

thank you,
ben adrian

benadrian wrote:Why are the overheads that distance from the top of the kit? Why are the overheads delayed 20ms? Is that to bring them into time-coherence with the ambient mics, or was that not an issue?

Yeah, that's a mistake on Intern_8033's part. It was the ambient mics that were delayed 20ms, not the overheads. That's something Steve taught me. There's a great reason why that he can explain better than I can, and it takes a pretty little picture to do so. So, I won't do it.

russ

i notice there's a mic under the floor tom.is that one of the josephsons?
also,were the mics under the toms phase-reversed?

you did a really good job documenting this,thank you.

this is exactly the sort of stuff that those of us who aren't interns love to see. it's like being a vicarious intern. thanks for taking the time to enlighten us. i do have some questions. how is the ambient mic in the dead room set up? both guitars and bass were tracked in the same room, correct? does the ambient mic pick up all three of these elements or is it intended mainly for the guitars? also, what is the panning situation for such a mic? wouldn't it smear stereo placement on the guitars? i've never tried a catch-all ambient mic like this, so i'm interested in how it's used and what it's like.

thanks.