numberthirty wrote: Sun Aug 03, 2025 11:28 pm Here's the thing...

While I truly get folks having the reactions that they do to this band?

I have a lot of time for a band that just rolls with Dr. Dre/Ed Lover improvising backing vocals like they did here -

It's like watching a Corporate Office Karaoke party.

Is "suburban" some sort of insult?

I think this comes back to the age old question, do you judge an artist by their best or worst work.

To be honest a bunch of the early Real Thing era stuff is pretty cringe worthy. Patton frequently discussed how he was 19 and acted how he thought he was supposed to. Whereas a bunch of stuff from Angel Dust, through King for a Day tour is not, in my opinion. Which explains why Angel Dust was deliberate “career suicide”, but then ended up on a lot of Best Album of the 90s lists.

I think the King for a Day era and tour was some great rock music.

Just to be clear folks who can stand them, I’m not trying to convince you, or particularly care about your opinion, this is for folks who remember Epic, hated it (totally reasonable) but missed later stuff. Which 30 years later is probably no one

But there’s one thing about this band that I think crawls up the butt of some people, the wilful lack of sincerity from Patton. It’s all surface, to be honest I can’t tell if anything he’s done has anything behind it than ironic detachment. Something that separates him and say Yow, who on stage are similar performers.

Vibracobra wrote: Mon Aug 04, 2025 2:28 pm Is "suburban" some sort of insult?

rsmurphy wrote: Mon Aug 04, 2025 4:26 pm

Vibracobra wrote: Mon Aug 04, 2025 2:28 pm Is "suburban" some sort of insult?

FTW!

CLOSE THREAD

Kniferide wrote: Mon Aug 04, 2025 1:00 pm

numberthirty wrote: Sun Aug 03, 2025 11:28 pm Here's the thing...

While I truly get folks having the reactions that they do to this band?

I have a lot of time for a band that just rolls with Dr. Dre/Ed Lover improvising backing vocals like they did here -

It's like watching a Corporate Office Karaoke party.

i seriously cannot believe someone posted that as an example of the “good” version of the band.

how can anyone take any of that seriously.

it reminds me of most high school bands where you simply don’t have a lot of options for fellow musicians which is why every talent show is riddled with a guy wearing a fishbone shirt on bass slappin away, a dude in a megadeth shirt on guitar shoehorning in the worst metalzone solos, the only drummer in the entire school who happens to play drums only for church and he’s wearing his sunday best and clearly very uncomfortable and then the singer who wants to be a star and knows that none of this sounds good but still pushes through.

that’s all fine because you’re 15 and whatever. but what the fuck man, these are adults making this music? how is this possible.

i’m about to say something i may regret. the red hot chilli peppers sound like heaven compared to this shit.

The comparisons to RHCP reminded me of this:



In my best Butt-head voice: "uhhh.. what is it?"

*shrug*

akosinski wrote: Mon Aug 04, 2025 9:38 pm

Kniferide wrote: Mon Aug 04, 2025 1:00 pm

numberthirty wrote: Sun Aug 03, 2025 11:28 pm Here's the thing...

While I truly get folks having the reactions that they do to this band?

I have a lot of time for a band that just rolls with Dr. Dre/Ed Lover improvising backing vocals like they did here -

It's like watching a Corporate Office Karaoke party.

i seriously cannot believe someone posted that as an example of the “good” version of the band.

how can anyone take any of that seriously.

it reminds me of most high school bands where you simply don’t have a lot of options for fellow musicians which is why every talent show is riddled with a guy wearing a fishbone shirt on bass slappin away, a dude in a megadeth shirt on guitar shoehorning in the worst metalzone solos, the only drummer in the entire school who happens to play drums only for church and he’s wearing his sunday best and clearly very uncomfortable and then the singer who wants to be a star and knows that none of this sounds good but still pushes through.

that’s all fine because you’re 15 and whatever. but what the fuck man, these are adults making this music? how is this possible.

i’m about to say something i may regret. the red hot chilli peppers sound like heaven compared to this shit.

For starters, who says I was taking it seriously?

Past that?

Why would I want to take everything seriously?

This next one is not something I take seriously. That does not stop me liking it all the same.

Along that line...

One of my favorite musical performances was a lady dressed up as Tonya Harding kicking out "Total Eclipse Of The Heart" during karaoke that was between band's sets at an Empty Bottle Halloween show. Ice skates and all.

Again, not every worthwhile musical performances is a tune off of Red.

PASTA wrote: Mon Aug 04, 2025 6:29 pm

rsmurphy wrote: Mon Aug 04, 2025 4:26 pm

Vibracobra wrote: Mon Aug 04, 2025 2:28 pm Is "suburban" some sort of insult?

FTW!

CLOSE THREAD

So it is I guess