I thought we (the musician as a species) had gotten over this whole drum machine fandangle? A 909 sounds great. As does a Boss Dr Rhythm run through a big muff.

its all sound, some people dont like saxamaphones, I think Yamaha DX7s sound hilariously great.

We dont give Dr Dre shit because he doesn't mention Pierre Schaeffer in interviews (this is where someone digs up an interview where he discusses musique concrete, aint it?)

and morton subotnik sounds like techno to me anyhow.

I thought we (as a forum) had gotten over caring what Steve thinks about the things we enjoy?

I guess not. Seriously, listen to electronic music if you want. I don't think Steve will care, so you shouldn't either.

ironyengine wrote:I thought we (as a forum) had gotten over caring what Steve thinks about the things we enjoy?

I guess not. Seriously, listen to electronic music if you want. I don't think Steve will care, so you shouldn't either.

I think I (as a living organism) agree. with you. there.

Eksvplot wrote:obscuratanism

Is this some religion where you only worship made up words as though they were gods?

I was about to make the same comment. As if the original poster was writing this thinking "I want to know if it's OK to like this or not, and what better way to do that than to check if Steve Albini does."

If you like electronic music, like electronic music. I can't see why it would make a flying fuck's worth of a difference what Steve - or Bob Weston, or Al Gore, or Gallagher, or Archbishop Desmond Tutu - thinks.

I like electronic music.

Ironically, I got into Big Black -- and hence everything Albini related afterwards -- because of electronic dance/club music.

I was a Wax Trax! records whore in my high school days... anything Al J. touched was automatically great. (I've definitely become wiser since.) When later "harder" Ministry was once described as a piss-poor Big Black imitation, that piqued my interest.. then soon after, I heard "Kerosene" on college radio, and I was sold. I got Atomizer and Songs About Fucking alongside Pailhead's Trait and Fugazi's first EP.. (remember Pailhead?)

Also, I always thought "Kerosene" was more danceable than a lot of other "industrial" dance music, personally.

Then again, I discovered The Fall because of dance/club music. Mark E. Smith did a guest vocal on an acid house track by Coldcut in 1989 called "(I'm In) Deep", as I was waaay into late 80s acid house music then. I dug his voice, so I did some interview mag scrounging for Fall articles, and decided to blindly purchase This Nation's Saving Grace. Score!

I still listen to and love electronic dance music, stuff from today and yesteryear. Sometimes it takes a menacing rock band for me to discover great dance material. Sometimes it takes great dance material to get me to discover a menacing rock band.

A couple things to think about:

1. Given what Steve Albini does for a living and the hours he puts into it, it's kind of incredible to me that he would ever listen to music for pleasure at all, much less try to seek out stuff he isn't familiar with.

2. There's no way to have the time and money and energy and resources to listen to everything. Deciding that one isn't interested in entire genres of music, while certainly an unfair and narrow-minded approach, is also very practical.

I realize that this second point is a simplification, and I don't mean to say that I know Steve Albini is totally uninterested in "electronic music." But I just hope that people aren't sad when they give their band's CD-R to Mike Watt and never hear back from him about it, no matter how sure they are that it's going to blow his mind. People are busy.

The premise of the thread is slightly confusing for me. If there is an individual interest in what Steve Albini likes why not pm him? If the intent is to start a thread discussing the merits of electronic music why not say so? No animosity intended here.

It seems like this discussion forum, or some members, has/have a bit of an identity crisis. Let me start by saying I am relative newbie puke and know none of the members here personally. Is it fair to say the appreciation of Albini's work is a common thread sewing things up here? But it definitely, much to my enjoyment, is not a "fan site". The atmosphere in general is great and am glad it exists. I think, perhaps more so than many places on the interweb, there are many very bright and thoughtful people which makes it a worthwhile place for me to procrastinate and underachieve while at my place of employment.

In the interest of full disclosure I am not a musician and understand very little of what takes place in technical forums here.

Not a flame or personal attack intended just an observation in the comparatively short time I have been frequenting this board.

mackro wrote:Ironically, I got into Big Black -- and hence everything Albini related afterwards -- because of electronic dance/club music.

I was a Wax Trax! records whore in my high school days... anything Al J. touched was automatically great. (I've definitely become wiser since.) When later "harder" Ministry was once described as a piss-poor Big Black imitation, that piqued my interest.. then soon after, I heard "Kerosene" on college radio, and I was sold. I got Atomizer and Songs About Fucking alongside Pailhead's Trait and Fugazi's first EP.. (remember Pailhead?)

Also, I always thought "Kerosene" was more danceable than a lot of other "industrial" dance music, personally.

Then again, I discovered The Fall because of dance/club music. Mark E. Smith did a guest vocal on an acid house track by Coldcut in 1989 called "(I'm In) Deep", as I was waaay into late 80s acid house music then. I dug his voice, so I did some interview mag scrounging for Fall articles, and decided to blindly purchase This Nation's Saving Grace. Score!

I still listen to and love electronic dance music, stuff from today and yesteryear. Sometimes it takes a menacing rock band for me to discover great dance material. Sometimes it takes great dance material to get me to discover a menacing rock band.

great story.