wow, traynor is good?!?! the only thing i ever knew about traynor is that i found a 2x15 cabinet at someone's curb in elk grove on garbage day... always assumed it was cause some kid's dad got pissed and told him his rock career was over. took out the speakers and laid the cabinet flat on the ground and voila, kick-ass coffee table. i took one of the 15's and put it in my nemesis combo amp (after i blew the original). i wonder if that's helping the sound any? if i woulda known traynor was good shit, i wouln'ta done any of that i guess. hrm.

you mean you ruined a 2x15 cab? for furniture?
the greatest pairing of two musico-electrical components ever made?
a chest-pumping sex grinding soul box of doom?

hang your head in shame.


i'd put a smiley emoticon here, but I'd have to kill myself afterwards...

i guess this would be a prime example of me being an idiot then? yeah, honestly i had never heard of traynor before (or since, actually) and was just psyched to get a free cabinet out of someone's garbage. i had an SVT 8x10 at the time, and a peavey 1x15 combo, and the nemesis 1x15 combo which is what i was actually using. the traynor was kinda big and a pain in the ass to lift into my trunk by myself. i figured i'd make better use of the drivers if i put them into the peavey and nemesis amps, since i had blown the drivers in both of those. funny too, i haven't blown the driver from the traynor yet. i guess that would be evidence that it's good right there. plus, i love the way that amp sounds. yeah, if i woulda known people dug traynor stuff (honestly, nobody i knew had heard of it) it woulda been put to better use than a coffee table. and later i threw the empty cabinet in the garbage, i thought it was a good life cycle. yet again, making mistakes due to being uninformed. oh well, what the hell. right?

and i still haven't found a home for the Kustom 2x12 cabinet i got from a friend in college for cheap. blue tuck-and-roll, old old cabinet.

I dunno. I played a TS-50B through a 15" EV cab on a session recently and it was much 'twangier' than i expected (similar to a GK). I had to crank the bass almost max and cut the treble and mids considerably to get significant low end, and still had to tweak with it some in mixing to get the twang out. I know I'm used to playing through an early '70s Ampeg V-4B, but still, I figured those things would have enormous low end considering the players who rave about them..

The Mark 1 SVT is the one for me. Particularly through an 8 or 9 X 10 cab. The Mesa Boogie 400T is a monster too.

Yup, that's what's in the silver box: a TS-50B and a Crown (PB-2 ??). The Crown is a 2-channel solid state power amp:400W per channel. Each channel feeds one of my 15's. I probably have the gain on the Crown at 25%. I think it's having all that available power for transients and low end that make it sound so good to me. Any distortion comes from the Traynor or from bottoming out the speaker.

I've never blown the Crown. I think it shut down a few times when it got too hot. But that hasn't happened in years.

Re: Traynors. Please folks. Let's keep it our little secret. The last thing we need is Traynors selling for Travis Bean prices on the eBay.

I've only ever had good luck with the heads. I don't think the cabinets or speakers are anything special.

best,
Bobbi

Re: Hartke -

Hmm. Some emnity. I can only speak from experience.

Have used the same 4 X 10 for over a decade and it's done everything I've asked it to with no complaints. I've never compared it directly with something else, but I've never blown it.

Also use a XL 1 x 15 as the bottom half of a bi-amped guitar rig. Blew that once a while ago when I first got the GK head and cranked it. Speaker popped almost instantly, which was my fault. I sent the speaker to Hartke to be reconed. When they sent it back, I (in college and having no money at the time) was using a Phillips head screwdriver to reattach the thing to the cabinet. I was on my last screw and slipped, firmly puncturing the speaker with the screwdriver.

I may have cried. I don't remember.

I sent the thing back to Hartke and they reconed it again, free of charge. That won them big points in my book. I think the company has since been picked up by Samson, so I can't continue to vouch for their kind customer service.

Also: bought the GK used and couldn't quite figure out from the back of it if the load ratings were for 4 or 8 ohms. I called the company, and they put me on the line with either Gallien or Krueger himself (I don't remember which). He sounded a little bit pissed to be explaining this elementary fact to a neophyte, but he still did it. Again - there's something to be said for a company that pays attention to its customers.

My disclaimer again - I am not a bass tone nut.

= Justin

well i'm just really releived to know i didn't miss out by recycling that cabinet. and happy with the driver that came out of it. as far as your secret, even if i told anyone they wouldn't listen to a word i say. last bass rig i played did dual duty with guitar, depending on the song, either a 3-string ventura bass or a '78 ibanez artist, through a digitech rp-20, mono'd stereo out into a nemesis NC200P (200W 1x15) and a '65 twin reissue. so anybody who finds that out generally doesn't listen to a word i say about gear from that point on. i mean, if nothing else, digitech?

Around the house here, we refer to Hartke gear as "talk-show-bass-player" bass cabs.

meow
Bob

This is a little bit off the subject, and for that, I apologize. I was just wondering if someone could chime in about the details and concerns of sanding down a fret. I just had a new fret installed on my Travis Bean TB 2000, while I was on tour. I didn't have time to leave the guy my bass to finish the job. I don't want to pay the 75 bucks it costs to have a guitar tech to refinish all of my frets. Any advice/instructions -- is there a good web site I could go to for info?

thanks.