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here's an idea: if you are determined to have a bad time, or if you're too cool, then stay at home. i saw a handful of bands at intonation fest last year, had a blast, and didn't hang around. i did, however, get to see a crapload of my friends, including many from this forum, and saw a couple of bands i like a lot. outdoor festivals never actually sound great, but that's not really the point, i think. it has more to do with some mythical combination of beer and sunshine and crowds of people who have some degree of similar musical interests.

i am, however, totally enamored with this new term, conformist outsider. this is the perfect and clever way to describe the people i make fun of in my head.

part of the niceties of the day was running into you, jay.





NOT CRAP.

kerble wrote:it was like seeing Avail when I was eighteen.

HAHAHAHA!

amazing.

andyk

Maurice wrote:I would very much not like to see the "Conformist Outsider" festival itself, but I would very much like to see the ideal Conformist Outsider lineup. Who should be booked for this?

Based purely on the fashion:

-The Rapture
-CYHSY (Fuck, their name can't even be compressed into a decent acronym. Fuck those guys!)
-Milwaukee's Decibully and Temper Temper (who are all seriously great guys, but damn, the clothes!)

Intonation was great. I'm looking forward to going again.

I worked the ticket booth from 9a-9p last July and had the privilege of seeing a sea of blissed out kids streaming in all day. They were excited and cool and there to see rock music. Who fucking cares if they had on this crap or that crap? Besides you?

Chris, I'll buy you a ticket to this year's event. You'll have a good time and I'll make fun of you for it.

Pick your outfit c-a-r-e-f-u-l-l-y.

Hmmmm... I think I'm reacting to the Pitchfork aspect of this whole thing. I just hate those twerps. Sounds like maybe they did something right for a change at last year's event.

FYI: the fest we went to last year, called 'intonation festival', is being run by the same people / organizers / location under the name 'pitchfork music festival' this year. this is due to a parting of ways between the organizers and the company which technically owns the intonation name.

to confuse things, the legal owners of the 'intonation' name will be having an intonatiuon festival this year, but the organizers & booking people are all different.

also: keep in mind that lollapalooza has 130 bands playing in grant park in three days. this is frightening. there are a couple good bands in there, too.

BadComrade wrote:You made it seem like you only went to the fest because it was a park that just so happened to have two bands you like playing there. You said "I wasn't in the mood for a rock festival"... so that's why I asked why not go to a park without a rock fest... you could see those two bands you like some other time.

Ah, I see. I had purchased the tickets in advance. I still stand by all my comments.

BadComrade wrote:Bef:

I think I'll wear one of those pastel vertical striped dress shirts, some professionally torn and bleach stained jeans, and a puka shell necklace. I'm gonna get my hair done like the "Growing Up Gotti" kids and everything. Faux-hawk all the way. I can take the dress shirt off when it gets really hot out, and show everyone what an "outsider" I am for having no tattoos or piercings. Everyone will be looking at -me- as I walk through the crowd. Oh how clever. Too bad they'll all think I'm some tool that is just trying to "hip myself" to something I read about in the reader when I was sitting at Starbuck's drinking some drink I've never had before. It'd be worth it to make a bunch of people think "man... this fest USED TO be cool, until guys like THAT started showing up... I hear that The Gap is like, gonna have a stage here next year... this is lame".

Don't be scared Chris, they won't all think that.

[end of afterschool-special voice] And you might just find that you'll have an ok time. Life is what you make it. It's about choices. The question is, how will you make yours? [/end of afterschool-special voice]

i'm no mountain goats buff, but We Shall All Be Healed is actually a pretty decent album. on the whole anyway. it's got some very good songs. furthermore, i don't see how/why it's a bastardization of his songwriting that he's signed to 4AD and making more fleshed out recordings and able to sell more records. (my last serious girlfriend was a big mountain goats fan and when she played his earlier recordings, in all honesty, they were a bit tiresome to listen to in the car for more than twenty minutes. and since what i've heard of his new stuff isn't slick in the slightest, who really cares?)

also, i don't have any piercings or tattoos or an indie-mod haircut, but i did recently buy the best fucking pair of sunglasses i've ever owned in my entire life. they fit my face and head perfectly. they're so right i've even started wearing them at night occasionally, something i never in a million years thought i'd do.

http://www.anysonglyrics.com/lyrics/c/c ... -night.htm

pitchfork i don't care for. but i'll admit i dislike them just a little less after hearing mr. whiney white stripes man (who can't act his way out of a paper bag) recently dissed them. too bad he didn't have the guts to diss the Onion as well.