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Posted: Tue May 02, 2006 11:55 am
by honeyisfunny_Archive
I thought sharrock just played flute for most of Monkey-Pockie-Boo?

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Posted: Tue May 02, 2006 5:26 pm
by Ivan Dobsky_Archive
rashiedgarrison wrote:Stefan Jaworzyn, the king of Chingford?


That's Stefan "Funk" Jaworcyn to you matey.

Good call.

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Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 11:04 am
by aaron_Archive
Could be remembering incorrectly but i think E.C. plays banjo on "Don't Punk Out"

You may want to hear Interstellar Space Revisited (Nels Cline/Gregg Bendian duo), one of my favorite records of the 90s. I am forever pushing this record on people. It's great.

Sharrock: Black Woman/MPB/Paradise (a lot of people hate this 'un but I think it has some of his finest moments).

Man, there are some really dire James Blood Ulmer records. Tread lightly.

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Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 11:11 am
by tmidgett_Archive
honeyisfunny wrote:I thought sharrock just played flute for most of Monkey-Pockie-Boo?


He plays a fair amount of slide whistle, as I recall.

It may be more slide whistle than is ideal. That much is true.

And the sidemen are, uh, nothing special. And his wife is no Yoko Ono or Patty Waters.

But there is some exquisite guitar playing.

Guitar (the album called Guitar) might be the best thing he ever did, really.

I am going to stand up for Seize the Rainbow and Ask the Ages as well. StR is a little fusiony, but I love it. AtA is w/Elvin Jones and Pharoah Sanders and Charnett Moffett, and it too is delightful.

A couple of the Last Exit records are also quite good--Noise of Trouble and the self-titled one might be the best places to go there.

I'm not too hip on some of his other late stuff--Nicky Skopelitis and the like. I only saw him once, Highlife tour, and his fucking keyb player was way too loud. Kind of ruined it.

I asked him after the show if Monkey-Pockie-Boo would ever get issued, and he laughed pretty hard. He said he didn't think so.

Requiescat, S.S.

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Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 11:11 am
by aaron_Archive
agent202 wrote:
-Fred Frith circa "Guitar Solos"


how could i loose fred frith he's fantastic

there is olso Marc ribot!!


both have large portions of their output sullied by jazzbo tendencies and bad 80s production.. might as well throw elliott sharp in the mix here too

there is a FF/Chris Cutler duo record that is great! Live in Prague and Washington (RRR 1983)

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Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 11:20 am
by tmidgett_Archive
aaron wrote:
agent202 wrote:
-Fred Frith circa "Guitar Solos"


how could i loose fred frith he's fantastic

there is olso Marc ribot!!


both have large portions of their output sullied by jazzbo tendencies and bad 80s production.. might as well throw elliott sharp in the mix here too


I had to get off the boat when it came to those guys. I just heard too much poo to get to the good stuff, which may well exist.

Speaking of poo:

Man, there are some really dire James Blood Ulmer records. Tread lightly.


This is true.

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Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 11:26 am
by Angus Jung
I think Marc Ribot is a hugely overrated guitarist. Seeing him attempt free improvisation in a live setting a few yrs back only reinforced this view.

And I don't recommend you follow the 80's turn this thread has taken.

But I DO recommend "Interstellar Space Revisited." Nels Cline is phenomenal on this record!

The truth is that there simply aren't a whole bunch of great free gtr players in the Derek Bailey or Joe Morris vein. These guys both have a unique, singular approach.

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Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 11:27 am
by choppy_Archive
tmidgett wrote:I'm not too hip on some of his other late stuff--Nicky Skopelitis and the like.


I have the duet record they did, "Faith Moves." It's lovely, fairly mellow. Not much wigout time apart from their cover of Ornette's "Venus."

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Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 11:57 am
by SecondEdition_Archive
Blood Ulmer and Sonny Sharrock are great.

I've dug what I've heard of Marc Ribot.

I don't know much about free-jazz guitar or guitarists. Usually when I think of free guitar I think of Zoot Horn Rollo or Antennae Jimmy Semens, and they weren't free at all, since those guitar parts were actually written that way. christ.

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Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 12:43 pm
by honeyisfunny_Archive
tmidgett wrote:
honeyisfunny wrote:I thought sharrock just played flute for most of Monkey-Pockie-Boo?


He plays a fair amount of slide whistle, as I recall.

It may be more slide whistle than is ideal. That much is true.

And the sidemen are, uh, nothing special. And his wife is no Yoko Ono or Patty Waters.

But there is some exquisite guitar playing.

Guitar (the album called Guitar) might be the best thing he ever did, really.

I am going to stand up for Seize the Rainbow and Ask the Ages as well. StR is a little fusiony, but I love it. AtA is w/Elvin Jones and Pharoah Sanders and Charnett Moffett, and it too is delightful.

A couple of the Last Exit records are also quite good--Noise of Trouble and the self-titled one might be the best places to go there.

I'm not too hip on some of his other late stuff--Nicky Skopelitis and the like. I only saw him once, Highlife tour, and his fucking keyb player was way too loud. Kind of ruined it.

I asked him after the show if Monkey-Pockie-Boo would ever get issued, and he laughed pretty hard. He said he didn't think so.

Requiescat, S.S.


I definitely agree with Ask The Ages - its a mighty record. Really good stuff.

Anyone who disses Ribot needs to listen to Spiritual Unity, the Alberty Ayler tribute he did with Henry Grimes and Chad Taylor a while back. Its amazing.