CRAP

Earwicker wrote:Good music in adverts is one of the world's great evils to me

Priceless.

rzs wrote:And I'm sure some 16 yr old jerkoff with a mohawk would tell you that you were a disgrace, only to do the same thing if in the same situation when he/she were older (and had lost the mohawk).

This has already happened, believe it or not.

Fuckin' kids.

I think there is a clear and useful definition of selling out. In my interpretation it has to do with the ignorance of someone signing to a major label under the assumption they will make money. It is basically an admission of a lack of work ethic. If you goal is to play music for a living and you feel the most logical and promising path is to sign yourself up with a large company that gives less than two shits about your general wellfare, then you are a sellout. If you, after years of busting your ass, decide to say, "fuck it, let's see what happens" then I don't really see much of a problem with that. I think it is still dumb, just not as dumb. Mind you though, I am a big asshole when it comes to bands leaving small, local labels just when they start to get more popular. Over my six years of working at a small label, I saw at least four bands leave to go to big labels with more notoriety. It makes me sad more than anything. Maybe if I were in a position where people were constantly telling me how great my band was and how many records we could sell i would feel differently. Probably not. Thankfully not many people have ever really liked the bands I was in.

Jon

"selling out" as an accusation is CRAP. things change. whatever.

galanter wrote:What about actors who act like they are above being in commericals...but in Japan they pull down quick millions for doing exactly just that?

Sick bastards!

Although at least these you speak of have some sense in trying to hide their corporate whore shame some just don't give a fuck - Jennifer Aniston, Brad Pitt, Madonna etc etc etc etc How much fucking money can these filthy fucking squibs possibly want?

20 fucking million a movie and you go and whore yourself (and your then relationship) to a company selling jewellery!

They obviously have zero regard for the art form they have been successful in.

They make me want to fucking puke all over them.

rzs wrote:

galanter wrote:What about actors who act like they are above being in commericals...but in Japan they pull down quick millions for doing exactly just that?

Which actors would these be?
Bill Murray's character in Lost in Translation doesn't count. Although I'm sure he wouldn't have claimed to be above it.

I saw Brad Pitt in ads for multiple products, including coffee. I saw somebody - maybe it was Colin Farrell? Maybe someone like him? - on billboard ads for an English language school.

But I saw a fucking amazing commercial for Chu Hai, which I guess is some sort of wine cooler or something, starring Ben Stiller. The voice was overdubbed and sounded absolutely nothing like him. It was extremely high energy, loud and manic. He drank the Chu Hai, and then I think he got frozen in a big block of ice, and then he exploded out of the ice block and flew off into the air. Girls in bikinis were present throughout. Amazing.

I think that one is on the http://www.japander.com/japander/ site...along with a bunch of others.

galanter wrote:I think that one is on the http://www.japander.com/japander/ site...along with a bunch of others.

I found a similar one, here, but it's not the one I'm talking about. Still pretty great!

Here is the kind where it's like "who the hell am I to tell *him* what to do?"