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protools is way overpriced. you can download a free copy of cool edit pro, buy a decent analog to digital converter box for $200 and mic your amps so you get a halfway decent guitar and bass sound.

It's fine for recording a demo, to put your ideas down and help in the songwriting process, but once you actually have songs polished to the point of putting them out there for people to hear, you need to go with a pro engineer and do it analog. Anyone who concentrates at all when they listen will be able to tell if something was done digitally, and I always kind of see it as amateurish and half assed.

That said, I am absolutely loving bfd deluxe. I'm not sure if I'll ever need a real drummer again.

Humphrey Bear wrote:every single decent thread I have started

Ah, but that's the issue, isn't it? If you hadn't been such a dolt elsewhere and often, your "decent threads" wouldn't have a problem.

Also, I fixed your size and color for ya.

hogrot wrote:That said, I am absolutely loving bfd deluxe. I'm not sure if I'll ever need a real drummer again.

Do you use BFD as a drum sampler that you play manually, or is it a pattern oriented sequencer kind of thing?

I'm in need of good drum samples with *many* layers...but I want to play them manually from pads and I don't want them locked inside of someone else's app...and I'm a little confused as to what BFD really is.

But I keep hearing that BFD is the way to go. (And the add-on recorded at EA has me especially intrigued. Kind of expensive though all totalled isn't it?)

galanter wrote:

hogrot wrote:That said, I am absolutely loving bfd deluxe. I'm not sure if I'll ever need a real drummer again.

Do you use BFD as a drum sampler that you play manually, or is it a pattern oriented sequencer kind of thing?

I'm in need of good drum samples with *many* layers...but I want to play them manually from pads and I don't want them locked inside of someone else's app...and I'm a little confused as to what BFD really is.

But I keep hearing that BFD is the way to go. (And the add-on recorded at EA has me especially intrigued. Kind of expensive though all totalled isn't it?)

i'm retarded. i meant to say i love dfh, and its newbie version ezdrummer. ezdrummer is really simple, it comes with plenty of beats that are usable as dummy tracks to get your ideas down, and then you can just go into it and edit the hits without really having to worry about the textures of the sounds.

what I really want to do is figure out how to use the bfd deluxe sounds in ezdrummer, but I think that would be too complicated for me because I've read that bfd takes more tweaking to get the sounds right.

Why would you complain about the production on someone's album sounding bad on their forum? What are you expecting them to do about it? I think you're an ass, and I'm sure they feel the same.

galanter wrote:
I'm in need of good drum samples with *many* layers...but I want to play them manually from pads and I don't want them locked inside of someone else's app...and I'm a little confused as to what BFD really is.

Buzz is a freeware, Windows-based system that does this quite well, once you work the bugs out. I love it. Check it out at buzzmachines.com.

Was everyone else as alarmed as I was to see this thread was authored by Humphrey Bear, before noticing the date it was posted?

I think ProTools is cool if you have a home studio and/or no space or cash to build a "real" studio (for sake of argument, a real studio would be somewhere like Electrical)...or if you're just not that serious about recording.

Pro Tools and digital recording in general is opening so many fucking doors for musicians it is incredible. Bands don't have to drop 2 grand for a week with an inept engineer who once assisted on a Stone Sour record. People can build studio/practice spaces and record albums that sound good...maybe even great.

I think something like ProTools, in my personal opinion, is going to destroy creativity and audio intelligence in the long run. Everything I know about recording, I learned from reading this board for a long time before joining, talking to pros, reading interviews with engineers I respect, and most of all, my grandfather. These are people who actually approach recording as an art sotospeak. The albums they work on are becoming artifacts that a band existed. To Metallica at this point, they don't give a fuck if it's ProTools or a TEAC. They just want to put out another record. They'll be documented no matter what as some foot note in history. They're "above" the rest. But recording an independent band is way more important. Analog equipment and storage holds up a lot better than digital, which degrades or becomes "obsolete" in time. I would much rather be an analog skid mark on someone's record collection than a platinum, polished turd on the mantel. I'd rather fuck around with splicing than a mouse. Personal preference. No biggie.

Pro Tools, analog...what about the tunes?