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kerble wrote:it appears he has a new solo album that just came out. maybe I will down load it.

From what I've heard, the solo album is best avoided.

sparky wrote:

kerble wrote:it appears he has a new solo album that just came out. maybe I will down load it.

From what I've heard, the solo album is best avoided.

Hell yeah

Rimbaud III wrote:The early singles weren't bad, and I think Bernard Butler was a pretty badass guitarist. Animal Nitrate was a nice little number.

I agree with this. I actually enjoyed the first two Suede albums a lot during my teenage years, but they don't really hold up to me now. I didn't care enough to keep up with them after their second album, so I don't know that I can vote.

"Animal Nitrate" is easily my favorite Suede song.

When I was last at my parent's house, I read an interview with Brett Anderson in the Mail On Sunday 'Men's Lifestyle' supplement. Turns out he was a top-notch teenage athlete, and likes to keep healthful. He recommended eating more fish. Since then, I have introduced more fish to my diet.

I liked 'Animal Nitrate' when I was fourteen, like all of you it seems. Crap, WF 3 for 'Animal Nitrate' and fish.

Oh, and London Suede? Get ta' fuck outer 'ere.

Hmmm, this band went to my school. I hated them then and now. I am surprised there are so many approving voices on this forum frankly. I would throw them in with Menswear, Mansun or Placebo.

Throw them into a deep, dank well that is.

You can probably find the first record in a used bin for 58 cents.
Buy it.

It's not the greatest thing in the world, and it's a little dated, but there were some good ideas in there. I figure out some of the guitar parts and they are great.

Brett sang in a sort of My Fair Lady stylee meets cat mewing.
"Ah ehhhhwwwwwww, we ah the yah-ha-ha-unnngggg"
He probably pronounced his own band's name as "Swide"
Annoying to some, to be sure.
Very fey, and like, say with Morrissey, you could either handle it or you couldn't.

Also like the Smiths, whether or not you could handle it, you should get beyond that and listen to the music because there's some cool stuff happening. Just as there are plenty of people who say "The Smiths are OK, I just can't handle the singer," I imagine Suede got the same thing.

The rhythm section was solid, and that allowed Bernard Butler to snake around a little. He had a style that fell between "riffage" and "texture."
The first half of a single measure might be two power chords and the second half might be a bendy melody line. It's a great effect and well worth stealing.
It was weird because he wasn't some hotshot in the classic sense, but he was a hotshot nonetheless. Great ideas.

Check out:
Animal Nitrate
He's Dead (live version is best)
Metal Mickey (which has the excellent Butler "swagger")
And on the anthemic side, Pantomine Horse

If you want these songs I'll email them to you.
If you like them, you will probably like the rest of the Bernard period.

Someone gave me a video of them once and it was a really good show.

I never cared for the new guitar player. He came to the band by way of an ad looking for someone "who plays in the style of Mick Ronson and Bernard Butler," then surprise! you'll be filling in for Bernard Butler! Ha Ha!

Likewise, Bernard's solo stuff was a bit up it's own ass.

A classic case of the two "creatives" needing each other.

-A

I think suede's 2nd albuw and onwards are bad, but i think their first album actually genuinely fucking rules.
It's so gay it's unbelievable, the guitars are good, the choruses are amazing, and brett anderson is/was a good singer.

I think that suede were lumped in as something very safe and uninteresting because they were around in 1993 from britain, i think if suede was from an earlier era in british music they're be as regarded as bowie or the rolling stones.

this is a good performance. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8K_F0Y5A88

fraser wrote:I think suede's 2nd albuw and onwards are bad, but i think their first album actually genuinely fucking rules.
It's so gay it's unbelievable, the guitars are good, the choruses are amazing, and brett anderson is/was a good singer.

I think that suede were lumped in as something very safe and uninteresting because they were around in 1993 from britain, i think if suede was from an earlier era in british music they're be as regarded as bowie or the rolling stones.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8K_F0Y5A88

I think the reason they were quickly labelled as uninteresting and safe was because they were. There was something fundamentally ersatz about them. The guitar was quite wild and exciting, but they were clearly trying too hard to be louche and risque. They were so gay it was unbelievable. Having the lead singer saying he was "a bisexual man who'd never had a gay experience" made all the gay stuff seem really mannered and frankly ridiculous, like when Damon Drama-Club out of Blur tried his darnedest to be an East End geezer. It also stank of a band keen on making it big wanting to have their cake and eat it. "Hey guys, the kids are digging the rockin' guitar, but what's with all the faggy stuff? You gotta nip that in the bud!"

Far far worse is that one of their later singles was effectively a re-write of "Wonderful Tonight". I'm as merciful as the next man, but some things cannot go unpunished.

Hey suede! Over here! Mr dski has got a well he wants to show you

N/C because of Animal Nitrate.