SpectralJulian is being a little too defensive for someone asking for advice imo

I was asking for advice, for some constructive criticism. Not for a demonstration in douchebaggery.

Gio came off as really snobby, arrogant, and condescending to me right off the bat. So of course I'm going to act aggressively towards him in response. That is how social situations work.

Pissing off Gio is one of the last things I want to do? What is he going to come to where I live and boo my shows?

Am I supposed to suck his cock because he insulted the way I describe the drum sound that I like and told me to experiment because obviously I am too fucking retarded to know to experiment with stuff myself?

This is my first venture into recording. I know these recordings are not very good. But to assume that the recordings represent what my live sound is like is just fucking ignorant. I have played many amps and many different guitars, and I know from my ears and my own experience that my there is no need to improve my tone. There are only a few guitars I've played that sound better than mine, but only marginally better for the price difference. I've played a bunch of different Fender amps and I like my bassman the best, and everyone who plays it really gets off to it.

No Scott, I don't want you guys to suck my dick and tell me what a genius I am. <i> I already know that </i>. I'd just like a bit of advice without a fucking attitude.

Stuff like "if you want a fuller guitar sound, try boosting such and such frequencies when you are recording."

Not "maybe your guitar tone just blows in the first place."

I do realize the vocals sound like shit. Don't fucking assume that I'm some ignorant hick who doesn't know a musical turd from anything. It is hard getting the right performance when you are screaming into a microphone with headphones on. It feels really stupid. Using the Sony V-220 doesn't help. I should have used the AKG. The Sony V-220 distorts your voice and also has a very small area where it is sensitive. Outside of that you lose a ton of volume. POS mic that I use for practicing. My dumbass friend broke my other mic.

Hey hotshot, gio wasn't being condescending at all, and it didn't sound like he was. And even after you repeatedly acted like a dick to him, he STILL went ahead and gave you all kinda good suggestions. You did a great job of thanking him for that, didn't you?

If you want advice about "if you want a fuller guitar sound, try boosting such and such frequencies when you are recording", you should, I dunno, read posts in the Tech Room, or read TapeOp, or check out ProSoundWeb.com or do any of a handful of other things.

To expect that people are gonna write a novel for you about how to be a recording engineer, when there's already an entire forum here full of such information, and then talk shit on gio when he gives you a genuine answer, yeah, that's douchebaggery. You brought it, cheef, not somebody else.

Who said you are "some ignorant hick"? You did. You have been severely defensive since your very first reply here. If you had a more gracious tone when responding to people who were offering you suggestions, maybe things would be a little different.

Take a step back and look at what you said... in a nutshell, you said this is your first recording ever, and you did it on a Tascam 4-tk... do you think it reasonable for people to assume you are anything but a novice? You're gonna get douchey because people haven't adopted a tone like you're some fucking genious recording god or something?

We all know how hard it is to record something and make it sound like it does in real life. We've all worked hard and will continue to. We come here for help, sometimes we get it, some times we don't. Acting like an ass will not get you there any faster.

Gio was nice to you even after you spouted off to him. He kept it together alot better than I or some other people would. Then to top it off gave you a bunch of useful advice!

Try this on for douchebaggery:

SpectralJulian wrote:Don't fucking assume that I'm some ignorant hick who doesn't know a musical turd from anything.

We didn't assume. We clicked your link and listened to your songs.

You guys are fucking delusional.

There is a difference between treating someone like a novice and moron.

Go on sucking Gio's cock. He wrote his first message with an attitude, and I replied with a tad bit of annoyance, and he turned on asshole mode.

How is it that any of you deserve to step into a bit of a scuffle between me and Gio? It was nearly fucking resolved and then you guys went ape shit on me.

haha, i'm getting my cock sucked!

i prefer to keep that stuff private, and certainly off the internet.

let's drop it. i take nothing personally. neither should you, newbie.

so you know, new guy, scott is a friend of mine, and he has taught me many, many things about recording via this board and in person. you'd be well served to just search his posts on the tech board. you'll learn something.

you'd be well served to thank him for his advice too.

and the few other people here who took their personal time to give you personal advice.

instead of mouthing off. look at your damn self.

but please, let's drop it.

oh, and you'll never make any friends here if you refuse to have a sense of humour, douder.

once again, i take nothing personally. it's a stupid message board. i am sure you are a very kind person in the flesh, who politely defers advice for things he already knows and is gracious for advice on things he does not know. i'll give you the benefit of the doubt.

ok.

i'm dropping it, my cock adequately "sucked."

punchy.

edit: in fact, everyone else who has replied here, in addition to scott, knows tons of shit about recording. they have answered my questions throughout the past year or two. you owe them thanks too, piccolo malo attitudine cazzo ragazzo.

I'm still sort of upset. But I'll drop it if everyone else does. You and I had a misunderstanding Gio, and I thought you were being snotty, which ultimately escalated things. I'm mad that other people got into it though.

So can we restart?
I'm taking it the vocals were clipping. I thought they just sounded awful because I was adding grit with my throat and it is a shitty mic in the first place. I just tried the AKG a bit ago and it works a lot better. I'll use that next time around.

I tried to watch the levels as best I could, but vocals can vary so much, especially with my half assed delivery. It is heavily my fault, I was sitting down and sort of talk/singing instead of standing up and really singing from my diaphragm. I just wanted to get it up as soon as possible because previously I had a track with myself recorded on a Phillips cassette recorder with one mic that sounded like complete ass (the recorder was picking up the overtones of my guitar than my actually picking.)

When I started the Spectral Presence, the vocal concept was that I would play the guitar really loud and bark the vocals out as best I could. At the time I didn't have the capability of micing my vocals during practice, so I'd just try my best to compete with the guitar and drums (and now bass finally.) Take note I got a drum machine because I was tired of writing music that I felt needed drums and not always being in bands and therefor just having music go to waste, not because I can't play with others.

Anyways with a recorder, the desperation of really fighting the mix is lost. I think it is just something I need to get over.

Just a little more explanation: The guitar tone on Science Fiction, Blondi, and Dialogue are supposed to be trashy. I wouldn't have my Electro-Harmonix Frequency Analyzer on if they were not supposed to be. Distance is different though. The mic placement of the AKG plus the setting that I had on my Boss Blues Driver completely screwed over the tone on that. My main problem with the tone on the songs is that they seem to fit in a small niche of bandwidth in the mids because at around 2.5k is where the guitar really starts cutting through but it also sounds sort of thin that way too.

I fucked up the EQ on the drums on Blondi because I liked the sort of dark sound, but that same dark sound doesn't cut through well at all.

Gio, your advice really was the best I have to admit, despite being obvious, I know I have to experiment.

It was sort of dumb for me to come here asking for ideas when I'm not out of them yet though.

I do realize there are limitations to the 4 track. But I have some bit of faith that I can capture what I'm all about on it with enough work. One of my favorite albums is Happy Go Licky: Will Play. It doesn't sound phenomenal, but it gets the point across.

I'll just get back to work. I have to write lyrics for the song Blondi anyways (I sort of made them up as I went along, I do that all too often.) I have a lot of ideas for next time, and you're supposed to ask for advice when you are out of ideas, not full of them, right?

HERE BE ODETTAS TIPS 4 U

1) DONT BE A PEANUTHEAD COZ U ACTIN LIKE ONE
2) GET SOME NICE JUICY BLACK PUSSY COZ U NEED IT REAL BAD
3) PRAY TO LORD BISU TO TEACH U HUMBLENESSESS
4) WHERE DA MUTHAFUKKIN BASS? OPEN UP DEM FLAPS WHITE BOY!

OH AND WORK DAT BOOTY

Odetta -

Do me a favor. Given that this board is heavily skewed toward white guys (check the "Let us see you" thread), I think it's reasonable to assume that you're really a racist fictional invention. But, rather than assume that you are, I'd really appreciate it if you could post a picture of yourself that would obviously show this is not the case. (Sitting next to a computer with the board up - holding a sign that says "Go fuck yourself Justin from Queens" - whatever). If you need a photo host, e-mail it to me and I'll put it on my site right away.

I know this sounds odd, asking you to prove yourself as what you claim to be. But I like this board and appreciate its high signal to noise ratio. I'm sure you can agree with me that if you are a white guy persistently posting misspelled, inappropriate questions and comments that are deliberately ignorant in the persona of a black woman, someone ought to call bullshit on you.

So I'll wait just a little bit before doing that.

= Justin

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=Justin,


Odetta and Kimyetta are absolute bullshit.

I've checked their IP addresses and they're sambo-style garbage pisses me off to no end. they are two other posters on this forum that think this is funny.


dear Kimyetta and Odetta,


fuck you.

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Faiz