Crap or Not Crap?

Crap?
Total votes: 19 (86%)
Not Crap?
Total votes: 3 (14%)
Total votes: 22

Politician: Tony Blair

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This one is hard for me.

Since 1997, this country has been a right shitter for me personally. The only thing is, since it's all I remember, I can't tell you if it's supposed to be like this or not. I mean, according to my parents Thatcher was literally the devil. I can't say if things would have been better had anyone else been in charge. Also, Blair doesn't strike me as an evil man. He strikes me as a dishonest one but I think that's a requirement of the job. I think he thinks he's doing well for his country and his family. I believe that sincerely.

I'm going for CRAP, massive waffles.
run joe run wrote:Kerble your enthusiasm.

Politician: Tony Blair

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Andrew L. wrote:Anyone have the dull misfortune to see The Queen?


Blair was treated very well by the script, but I wouldn't call The Queen dull, not at all. To be fair, the Queen was about a compact series of events surrounding Diana's death- whatever Blair is or isn't apart from his maneuvering of the royal family then was not the subject of the film.

Politician: Tony Blair

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Andrew L. wrote:Anyone have the dull misfortune to see The Queen? I've never seen such a hagiographic tribute to a craven, bumbling asshole (Blair). The portrayal of Blair is obscene in its sycophancy, with the O' So Human British Royals as foil to the jerk's supposed liberal-populist charisma. Ah, the irresistible charms of the ruling elites. Jolly good bullshit.

As embarrassing as it is to have Bush as our president, I'm just relieved (I suppose) to see that such blind sycophancy and authoritarian worship aren't exclusively american.

The Queen sucked on all counts. Oh look! He has a Sony Playstation on his TV! He has kids! He's a regular-joe, that Tony Blair! A man of the people!

Politician: Tony Blair

16
The Queen was an attempt to portray Liz 2 as a rounded human being rather than simply a figurehead/symbol. That her humanity tempers and informs the role she was born into … and vice-versa. I thought it did that well, or at least sympathetically. What you make of that is another question. I thought the treatment of Blair and his aides was cartoon-like. Sycophantic? I wouldn’t care to see myself portrayed like that.

Politician: Tony Blair

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Trophy Moose wrote:The Queen was an attempt to portray Liz 2 as a rounded human being rather than simply a figurehead/symbol. That her humanity tempers and informs the role she was born into … and vice-versa. I thought it did that well, or at least sympathetically.


"She ain't a human being..."
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Politician: Tony Blair

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Cranius wrote:
Trophy Moose wrote:The Queen was an attempt to portray Liz 2 as a rounded human being rather than simply a figurehead/symbol. That her humanity tempers and informs the role she was born into … and vice-versa. I thought it did that well, or at least sympathetically.


"She ain't a human being..."


Hey!

Meanwhile Blair toads down the middle as reluctant hero, charting a "third way" between Queen and country, moving from the pleasingly shambolic Blair household (with Tony's own football jerseys and his Stratocaster leaning against the wall in every other frame) to the rarefied Royal Palace, wherein the poor, dear Queen struggles to keep it real.

It's a swell made-for-teevee movie and Helen Mirren's performance is good.

Someone drew this to my attention today:

JEREMY PAXMAN:
So there is a distinctive British foreign policy. Does it have an ethical dimension still?

TONY BLAIR:
Of course it does, yeah.

JEREMY PAXMAN:
How then can you publicly endorse a country which bans political parties, bans trade unions and uses institutional torture?

TONY BLAIR:
The country being?

JEREMY PAXMAN:
Saudi Arabia? You called it a friend of the civilised world.

TONY BLAIR:
Yes, but it is also important to realise that if we want a secure progress in the Middle East, we should work with Saudi Arabia. I don't decide... Ethical foreign policy doesn't mean that you try to decide the government of every country of the world. You can't do that.

JEREMY PAXMAN:
You called it a friend of the civilised world.

TONY BLAIR:
It is. In my view, what it is doing in respect of the Middle East now...

JEREMY PAXMAN:
It chops people's arms off. It tortures people.

TONY BLAIR:
They have their culture, their way of life.

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