Autism-Mitochondrial Dysfunction Link: 1 in 200 At Risk

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night_tools wrote:Perhaps the number of reported cases of autism is increasing because doctors are more aware of autism now and are more likely to diagnose it.


When this is factored in, it explains most of the increase. Apparently, one of the reasons doctors are more likely to diagnose it now is that there's government support for kids with autism that isn't avaliable for other mental disorders.

Autism-Mitochondrial Dysfunction Link: 1 in 200 At Risk

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connor wrote:My mother works with lots of autistic children and is a proponent of this theory.

RFK Jr. chimes in.


RFK, Jr. in the Boston Globe also:
autism. mercury, and politics
the globe article, 7/05 wrote:MOUNTING EVIDENCE suggests that Thimerosal, a mercury-based preservative in children's vaccines, may be responsible for the exponential growth of autism, attention deficit disorder, speech delays, and other childhood neurological disorders now epidemic in the United States.

Prior to 1989, American infants generally received three vaccinations (polio, measles-mumps-rubella, and diphtheria-tetanus-pertussis). In the early 1990s, public health officials dramatically increased the number of Thimerosal-containing vaccinations without considering the cumulative impact of the mercury load on developing brains.

Autism-Mitochondrial Dysfunction Link: 1 in 200 At Risk

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Mandroid2.0 wrote:It could be the mercury in the water and the subsequent aquaculture affected by the toxin levels as well, Bob.


How much tap water are kids drinking before age two?

You may wish to attempt looking there (at the simple explanation) first.


You are wlecome to go in that direction with your investigation- what, do I own these threads?

Oh, right. You are clocker bob...

Maybe you could discuss this without bringing some prior prejudice to the table- you might be surprised how friendly I can be when I don't run into, "oh, it's Bob, the 9/11 guy" in every thread, including threads about autism.
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Autism-Mitochondrial Dysfunction Link: 1 in 200 At Risk

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I'd like to see evidence that mercury in vaccines causes autism; if anyone has any, please post it.

Here is a Wikipedia article covering this hotly contested issue.

Here's a CBS/AP article that says there is no proven link:

There is no evidence that a controversial mercury-based vaccine preservative causes autism, concludes an eagerly anticipated scientific review that says it's time to lay vaccine suspicions to rest and find the real culprit.

Tuesday's conclusion by the prestigious Institute of Medicine was a blow to parents of autistic children who blame vaccination for the brain disorder and are pushing for more research of the issue.

But the Institute of Medicine's panel of prominent scientists pointed to five large studies, here and in Denmark, Sweden and Britain that tracked thousands of children since 2001 and found no association between autism and thimerosal.

While high doses of mercury can cause neurologic damage, there's no evidence that this type of damage causes the symptoms specific to autism -- and no laboratory or animal research that proves how the much smaller amounts in thimerosal could do so, either, the IOM concluded.


Again, if anyone has any solid evidence (and remember, correlation does not imply causation, as the cliche goes), that links mercury in vaccines to autism, please cite it.

Autism-Mitochondrial Dysfunction Link: 1 in 200 At Risk

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Mark Van Deel wrote:
night_tools wrote:Perhaps the number of reported cases of autism is increasing because doctors are more aware of autism now and are more likely to diagnose it.


When this is factored in, it explains most of the increase.


I'd like to see your evidence.

From the award-winning investigation by David Kirby, Evidence of Harm:
"Why did the CDC and the Food and Drug Administration allow mercury exposures from childhood vaccines to more than double between 1988 and 1992, without bothering to calculate cumulative totals and their potential risks? Why, for that matter, was there a corresponding spike in reported cases of autism spectrum disorders? Why did autism grow from a relatively rare incidence of 1 in every 5,000 births in the 1980s, to 1-in-500 in the late 1990s. Why did it continue to increase to 1-in-250 in 2000, and then 1-in-166 today?"

Autism-Mitochondrial Dysfunction Link: 1 in 200 At Risk

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clocker bob:

I can ask you questions too, see below. We can both find anecdotal evidence to support the vaccine/autism link or argue against it. So what. Where's evidence that vaccines cause autism?

One 1998 study which examined the prevalence of autism in children born in Sweden from 1975 to 1984 found no difference in the prevalence of autistic children born before the introduction of the MMR vaccine in Sweden and those born after the vaccine was introduced.[25] Another 2002 study examined all children born in Denmark from January 1991 through December 1998.[26] There were a total of 537,303 children in the study; 440,655 of the children were vaccinated with MMR and 96,648 were not. The researchers did not find a higher risk of autism in the vaccinated than in the unvaccinated group of children.


From Wikipedia.

To quote you, clocker bob, "I'd like to see your evidence."

Autism-Mitochondrial Dysfunction Link: 1 in 200 At Risk

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clocker bob wrote:Maybe you could discuss this without bringing some prior prejudice to the table- you might be surprised how friendly I can be when I don't run into, "oh, it's Bob, the 9/11 guy" in every thread, including threads about autism.

I don't think that I've ever had an argument/debate with you on here, actually. How could I bring prior prejudice to the table?

You can get my IM address and info from Matthew Wauck, Superstar. Then again, I have a sneaking suspicion that you already have it handy.
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