If I've learned nothing from glossing over Clocker Bob's posts - and I haven't, through no fault of his -it's that we don't pick our next president anyhow, the Israeli World Bankers from US-Landowning China do and we're powerless against them so what's the point.

alex maiolo wrote:

I don't think that the Black Thing or the Woman Thing are going to run that badly against Obama or Clinton, simply because the kind of people who would hold that against somebody are generally not the kinds of people who would be voting for Gore or Edwards anyway. (I'm not saying all Republicans are racist and sexist; I'm saying most overt white racists and male sexists vote Republican.)

I'd like to think you are right, but I have my doubts. Perfectly reasonable people do crazy shit when they get in a voting booth. Latent concerns rear their heads.
Once again, the people who *don't* want a minority will work hard to put The Fear into people about "weak women" and "a black guy named Osama, I mean Obama."
Mark my words.

I was talking to some otherwise decent-seeming and engaging locals in a bar in Washington state over the weekend, and the moment race came up things got ugly.

E.g. Guy in an old Rolling Stones tour shirt was adamant that "Chicago is one of the dirtiest cities in America," and it was very clear that "dirtiest" meant "black." He was no fan of the Republican Party or Bush but he was deeply racist.

One anecdote. Perhaps (and hopefully) not representative...

alex maiolo wrote:

Boombats wrote:Thank you, thank you. My first motion while in non-office will be to have Gore publicly sodomized in public

Because publically sodomizing him in private would be impossible.
Geez, your first stump speech and you've already "Bushed" it.

I still believe in you though!

-A

No you don't get it, Al G's nickname for his "privates" is "Public." Again, top-of-the head shit! Don't misunderestimate me.



I think Gore should start a TV prog called "The Al G. Show" where he talks in gangsta and pretends to be a politician.

Boombats wrote:

Skronk wrote:Let's do something original this election. Not have a new president. I non-nominate Boombats.

Thank you, thank you. My first motion while in non-office will be to have Gore publicly sodomized in public by his wife with a strap-on.

you should have said strap-non

davesec wrote:

Boombats wrote:

Skronk wrote:Let's do something original this election. Not have a new president. I non-nominate Boombats.

Thank you, thank you. My first motion while in non-office will be to have Gore publicly sodomized in public by his wife with a strap-on.

you should have said strap-non

Ba da ZING!
"You're a beautiful crowd! Try the veal!."

-A

Boombats wrote:I think Gore should start a TV prog called "The Al G. Show" where he talks in gangsta and pretends to be a politician.

It's so crazy it
just
might
work.

-A

alex maiolo wrote:

Boombats wrote:I think Gore should start a TV prog called "The Al G. Show" where he talks in gangsta and pretends to be a politician.

It's so crazy it
just
might
work.

-A

It worked in the movie Bulworth.

The Dems are going to have to grow a set before they get my vote.

At this point the party is too fragmented to get anything done IMO. No cohesion, nothing I can find they stand for as a party. I have zero confidence or trust in them at this point, and they will have to really earn my vote this election. If not, I'll go back to my usual stance of Independent party support and go Green.

Don't make me do that, guys.

Whew, just finished reading it between all the work I have to do here. I am now finding Edwards a compelling candidate. I was looking for something to convince me. Now, it's just more research!

Linus Van Pelt wrote:The good thing about Clinton winning the nomination would be that I think she would conduct a tough, no-holds-barred, borderline unethical campaign, just like any Republican will. By that measure, she probably has the best chance of winning. Although I like to think Gore has a good chance of winning too - he has before.

This is a very astute observation. I've been saying this sorta thing for a while. Hillary is really similar to Bush...I think she'd sneak into the White House by just a hair...just like The Evil One.

The Democrats have a number of charismatic and well-qualified candidates. This doesn't necessarily mean shit...we're pretty deep into disaster at this point.

I wouldn't mind seeing Gore get in, but he won't. He's through with politics, folks. Plus have you all forgotten how simliar his policy positions were to Bush's in 2000? Remember why we all liked Nader? I did.

I actually got into a long argument with Nader in 2004 about how he could fuck everything up again (I knew the polls [with Nader numbers included] for any state on any given day). You can say the Supreme Court stole the election, but to deny that Nader didn't play a role just by existing is folly.

I'd love to see Barack actually get it together and put together a platform...to show some true leadership qualities. Bill Clinton was a lump of clay platform-wise in 1992 for an extremely long time before he got it together. Of course...without Perot, Bush I probably would have won again.

Stop the Bush/Clinton dynasty! It's fucking un-American!