ID has been on shaky ground since it's creation. Dawkins and other scientists have done a great job of debunking the claims of these people. Michael Behe, the originator of arguing irreducible complexity was embarrassed on the stand of a PA court room (Kitzmiller v. Dover) for not having: "read fifty-eight peer reviewed publications, nine books and several immunology textbook chapters about the evolution of the immune system..."
Behe and other ID proponents main strategy is arguing 'God in the gaps' and irreducible complexity to illustrate deity in the creation of nature. So far, both are preaching to the choir (Christians) as the scientific community remains unconvinced due to the lack of evidence.
Like Holocaust denial and religious apocalyptic fiction, these people know they have a choir to preach to and that choir has fairly deep pockets; will attend films like this one, buy books like Behe's and pay Behe types big money to testify in court so that they can get ID taught in school.
Richard Dawkins Accepts Possibility Of Intelligent Design
12Rick Reuben wrote:I would call looking up into the stars from Earth and then telling yourself that not one of them ever sent visitors who interfered with our ecosystem ranks way up there in stupidity. It's as dumb as thinking that elites aren't conspiring to manage the world because nobody sees them conspiring and none of the elites tell us they are doing it. And then, based on that refusal to accept common human behavioral traits in the richest humans ( desire for power and money), rejecting the idea that you live in a planned environment.
I don't understand how anyone can rank the possibility of an intelligent organization of our world any lower than the possibility of a random series of purely unmanaged events. But whatever. If accepting higher powers either within your day-to-day world or within our universe makes you feel small and powerless, tell yourself that water, eagles, blueberries, humans, and every other variety of life were all ejected from some exploding nucleus and then formed the tree of life unguided.
See, if I were you and I was looking to be less ridiculed, the last thing I would want to do is call attention to the perfect symmetry between the your NWO/Elites beliefs and your Intelligent Design beliefs.
Richard Dawkins Accepts Possibility Of Intelligent Design
13Rick Reuben wrote:Perhaps our subconscious is constantly picking up signals that our environment is designed all the time, signals that resonate with the design of our own brains, molding us into seekers of the Creator.
Subconscious?
Is there any such thing?
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14The intelligent design debate is a fun one to have...in a philosophy classroom. Not in a science classroom. The end.
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Richard Dawkins Accepts Possibility Of Intelligent Design
15DrAwkward wrote:The intelligent design debate is a fun one to have...in a philosophy classroom. Not in a science classroom. The end.
well put...
lemur68 wrote:I've always said there are two ways to guarantee getting on the news:
1) Be found hoarding 80 animals in your home.
2) Drive through a storefront.
I'm 6/80ths the way to #1.
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17let's say there's a creator, a god if you will.
who created him/her or it? did he/her/it just exist?
this seems much more implausible than any scientific view of the universe's creation or starting point.
Fuck Ben Stein. He also owns like 4000 credit cards.
who created him/her or it? did he/her/it just exist?
this seems much more implausible than any scientific view of the universe's creation or starting point.
Fuck Ben Stein. He also owns like 4000 credit cards.
Richard Dawkins Accepts Possibility Of Intelligent Design
18that damned fly wrote:my best bet is a mass exodus of people with brains from this ridiculous goddamned thread.
FYP
tocharian wrote:Cheese fries vs nonexistence. Duh.
Richard Dawkins Accepts Possibility Of Intelligent Design
19Dr. Venkman wrote:
Exactly. This is why the popular notion of ID is retarded.
The only basis for the idea of ID stems from the notion that life is far too complex to have evolved on it's own...therefore, there MUST have been a designer. Ok, well that form of life must be pretty complex as well...who designed it? When followed using logic, it's a circle. The theory has no end point. This does not rule out a creator, of course, but it does dispatch popular notions of ID easily.
