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ERawk wrote:Good call on Raw Power, SE.

How about the first issue of VU's Loaded sans bonus tracks?

I could go with that. It was pretty muffly, right? At least that's what I remember about one of the versions of Loaded I've heard.

Also, a lot of the releases of Blonde on Blonde have flat-out sucked on CD, at least in comparison to the truly remastered Columbia reissue.

bellulah wrote:thirdly, mudcrutch got all that press for including a cd with the vinyl copy which was produced straight from the vinyl masters. my question: is it this easy? i mean, if any of us told the mastering folks it was being mastered for vinyl, then just took those masters and put them on cd instead, would that sound good?

just a thought...

From my very limited understanding of these things... I have always heard that for vinyl, they (sometimes/usually/always?) have to roll off the bass to make sure the needle won't physically jump out of the groove, right?

So if you take your whatever master tapes, then artificially subtract bass due to the limit of the vinyl medium... then take that result and slap it onto a CD, which doesn't have that physical needle/groove limitation... then aren't you just an asshole?

Aren't you intentionally making the CD have less of your original recorded sound, and for no real reason?

I would think that the last thing you would want to advertise would be that you used a vinyl master to make a CD... right?

Maybe I'm over-simplifying it in my cartoon brain - somebody who does this for a living please step in and speak up if I am way off here.

Don't ask me how I know this, but Sum 41's "Does This Look Infected" is the worst mastered record I've ever heard. Fucking awful. So chock full of after-thought effects and pitch correction. Fuck that fucking record in its asshole.

Anything related to Venom.

Oh, and although I love SST, yeah, their mastering sucked my dick off.

Metallica's "St. Anger".

The snare drum throughout the album is far and away louder than anything else. Loud for the sake of loud. I declined a free copy of the album.

ERawk wrote:

SecondEdition wrote:

ERawk wrote:Good call on Raw Power, SE.

How about the first issue of VU's Loaded sans bonus tracks?

I could go with that. It was pretty muffly, right? At least that's what I remember about one of the versions of Loaded I've heard.

Yes and the levels in general are way too low.

I remember when St. Anger came out, I happened to catch a video from that album channel-surfing one day....THUD THUD THUD THUD THUD.

More like THWAP (RING) THWAP (RING) THWAP (RING) THWAP (RING)

several versions of 13th Floor Elevators - Psychedelic Sounds

Everything Steve Earle recorded before 1998. I was going through a country rock revival and checked out his 'classic' Guitar Town (overrated). I love on old cd's how they tell you recording, mixing, mastering, analog or digital with little boxes with A's or D's. When you see an album Copyright 1988 and it says [D][D][D] you know you're in for a rough listen.

What the fuck happened to Nashville?

Same deal with Neil Young's sudden interest in the digital medium in the eighties. Yuck!

losthighway wrote:Everything Steve Earle recorded before 1998. I was going through a country rock revival and checked out his 'classic' Guitar Town (overrated). I love on old cd's how they tell you recording, mixing, mastering, analog or digital with little boxes with A's or D's. When you see an album Copyright 1988 and it says [D][D][D] you know you're in for a rough listen.

What the fuck happened to Nashville?

Same deal with Neil Young's sudden interest in the digital medium in the eighties. Yuck!

I hate the way Harvest Moon sounds.

[quote="losthighway"Same deal with Neil Young's sudden interest in the digital medium in the eighties. Yuck![/quote]

Oh Everybody's Rockin!

choppy wrote:Anything and everything on SST.

yeah. it's been forever since i heard entertainment, was that just bad production or was the mastering balls too?