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garthplinko wrote:IANABC, but i can imagine what pickup line that stage is about to try out.

I have an Orange AD-15 that I kind of regret buying(it's my only amp and not very versatile), but if you blend it with a Deluxe Reverb or Twin it's the best guitar sound I've gotten. I'm certainly not a pro, though.

Hey, Andrew B. Cohen.You know Axis: Bold as Love?"Bold as love/Just ask the axis"?What is that supposed to mean?I could look it up, but I prefer when people really know things.Maybe you don't know! Yours Truly,Hosoi

I don't like this at all.

OR120 is not just hazardously loud, but also incredibly heavy to lug around, the transformers in them are the size of a toaster.Other problem is they really want to be run on full volume to sound as they should, on half volume they don't sound very exciting.

garthplinko wrote:a conversation I've heard a lot. "show was great but I couldn't hear anything""oh? Where were you?""right up front man! Right in the middle!"Best place to SEE a show, worst place to HEAR a show - at least at larger venues.With current line arrays, they're trying to construct a continuous and tightly-directed planar wavefront out of a lot of different speakers. This can cause a lot of problems “ line arrays are mainly used for their ability to throw sound long distances without big reductions of volume, ease of transit, ease of rigging (can be flown without building an enormous scaffold) power handling, and overall control, but not sound quality. The speakers can end up fighting each other rather than working in unison, each one has a complicated directivity and the concentrated sound pressure in front of the cabinets can produce conflicting acoustic loads on each speaker “ the assumption is that every box works identically, but the issue is in practise much more complex, these days every box gets sent a different signal to compensate. The misalignment of each box in the line-array becomes more of a problem when you're standing to the side of the array and the distances start to vary substantially between the speakers at the listening position. Indoors, reflections of these bad-frequency-response phasey mis-aligned extreme-angle emissions can be a serious problem.This is why in a really difficult acoustic, a lot of the time you'll see a little cluster flown up the top in the middle of the stage working as a center-fill, usually something like this: http://meyersound.com/news/2005/royal\_a ... d/?type=26 < possibly the worst sounding building in the world.Another neat solution is to put a couple of small ground stacks at the front of the stage, angled down into the audience, covering the very front of the audience, put the mains with a wider spacing out of the way.Designing a stage which has poor sound at the front, that's the stage designer's fault.

IANABC but old Orange amps like the OR80 or OR120 are ripping loud. Paint peeling. Certain Orange cabinets were terribly inefficient back then, with flimsy 15 or 30 watt speakers, but the amps themselves, into say a Marshall 1960 cabinet or a Hiwatt cabinet with the Fane speakers... Ripping, snarling loud.The newer Orange-branded amps are nothing like that, they are darker, overdrive earlier and can sound slightly muddy to my ear, but they're fine amps as an option and for people who build their sound around them there's no reason they wouldn't be ideal for one thing or another.

Hey Hoisoi, OK, I finally saw this!I will say that the only Orange amps I have played through much at all are Steve's. I recall that one is 120W and maybe one is 80W. They are both old, like maybe late-'60s or early '70s. One has only symbols under the few knobs, the other has symbols and the normal words, like "bass" "treble" "gain" etc.These amps are great. They are really loud and have a lot of midrange. They are not 100 miles away from a similar era 4-input no master volume marshall, but as I recall, may be even "middier." I like them through the flimsy original speakers as you get some cool compression and it helps tame the volume beast a little. Not a lot, just a bit.I haven't heard the new ones almost at all. They sound like they are not good, so I would get over those and if you want to look awesome with the unmistakable Orange aesthetic get an old one.That's all I got. I have used Marshalls, tweed fenders and AC-30 type things much more in my career, but Steve's Oranges are right up there in coolness!

Hosoi wrote:I don't like this at all.A quick bit about this...These are the pickups he's using now -phpBB [media]I could easily see these pickups alone with that amp playing up the sound you are talking about.

Andrew B. Cohen wrote:Who is this Secona Lee?!?We all would like to know!While we're discussing SKWM songs - Tim has a thread going on Facebook where everyone's talking about The Ram from Italian Platinum. What is this song about? When I first heard it I thought it was inspired by battering rams, particularly ones the Romans used to break down the walls to Jerusalem. I'm not sure that makes any sense anymore, especially after I read the lyrics.