I found one of these over the winter for super cheap and bought it:http://www.seismicaudiospeakers.com/2x1 ... A-212EmptyMine was already loaded with Jensen Mods, which works well for some of the guitar stuff I do. The guy I bought it from used it for half his bass rig, but I bet even these alone with 2 high powered (at least 200w) efficient 12" speakers (hint: 'bass' and PA speakers are often interchangeable) would sound pretty good for most bass players. At a venue you could always use a line out or DI to help supplement the low end. The construction quality isn't bomb proof but they are super easy to carry. I concluded a while ago that there are no perfect solutions for both guitar and bass. A 2x15 can sound amazing for bass, but is usually big and can be harsh sounding on guitar (unless you're Kyuss and turn down the treble and up the fuzz). A typical guitar 2 or 4x12 with breakup-y speakers works on guitar but then just makes your bass sound like another guitar: flubby and with no true low end.

EVM-12Ls can sound great for bass in the right cabinet, but aren't cheap new. The Eminence equivalent isn't too bad though: http://www.eminence.com/speakers/speake ... ta\_Pro\_12A

154 wrote:EVM-12Ls can sound great for bass in the right cabinet, but aren't cheap new. The Eminence equivalent isn't too bad though: http://www.eminence.com/speakers/speake ... ta\_Pro\_12ANot bad. I guess if I went for another 4x12 it'd add up. I'm guessing the delta pro 15 is similar to the 15" EV speaker?

154 wrote:Yep, Delta Pro 15As are pretty close to EVs. I've used them in several cabs and they're great.Depending on the cab you might be able to keep 2 of the current guitar speakers and do a 2x12 x 2x12 X pattern thing (in series/parallel). Odds are the current 4x12 speakers aren't 8ohms, but it would be easy to get 2 guitar speakers for what one of these costs. Something like 2 12" Jensen Mod 70s and 2 Delta Pro 12As would give you a 280w 8ohm cab, enough for almost any bass head, certainly any guitar amp. The Deltas would give you the clean highs and lows (and projection) and the guitar speakers would give you the midrange breakup. It would only work if the cab had some depth and mass, but just throwing around ideas..Right now my 4x12 has celestion v30s in it. Doubt I could safely use those with a bass guitar. I got lucky with this beat-to-shit randall guitar center was selling on their used site.

154 wrote:So more or less a Marshall slant-sized cab? Hmmm, don't know if that would have enough volume for bass. I was thinking Orange/Emperor/Sunn 4x12 sizes, not that those would be easy to carry loaded with bass speakers..It's a straight cab if that makes any difference. randall xl something.

ossipago wrote:the orange obc 15s and the old mesa 1x and 2x15s used the tl606 plans, so those are your easiest bet on finding the beloved Dietz outside of texas. if you have stairs then i would fuck off this whole idea of a 2x15 and get a pair of singles, unless you feel like skating down on the skid rail. that could actually be fun. those duallys are said to outperform just about everything whilst being lighter (thinner ply, neo mags) but I haven't had the opportunity to try one let alone comment on how it would handle guitar.and on a final note, seeing as though you're happy with your current set up for guitar, have you tried a bass 4x12? they're not the most efficient design, but can still push some air and sound pretty decent doing soI wouldn't mind a pair of singles either. I mean plenty of people do that. I haven't tried a bass 4x12. I've also never found one. I know Peavey made one. The TVX series or something? Are there any people who build single 15 cabs that would be cheaper than Orange or Mesa? I feel like I'd be paying more for the brand with those.

Riff Magnum wrote:Don't think anyone has mentioned Acoustic Cabs yet. I got my 2x15 off of craigslist for $150 (7 years ago)and it was in great shape even though it was an older one. I've used it for both bass and guitar and it sounds fantastic. Not nearly as heavy as other cabs I've used and it has casters. I don't know the model number off hand, but i could find out.My friend/bandmate has an old acoustic 2x15. Didn't come with casters but he put some on it. That thing weighs so much we have trouble carrying it around. Probably because of the old ass heavy 70's speakers in it. It also just has top straps so it's hard to wrangle compared to something with built in handles.Also, how do I find FM Milford? Googling pulls nothing. And also is there even a cheap 12" speaker that'll sound fine with bass and guitar? As far as I know most 12" speakers are made for guitars. Hell I don't even know what a good 15" speaker would be for both.

garthplinko wrote:And of course if you're a REAL masochist, there's the 4x15. http://mypicsonline.net/archive/archive ... 0Plans.pdf