All I know about them is that they like to smash up their equipment onsatge, so I guess they're NOT CRAP

They kinda have that totally neutral sexless/passionless, that can sometimes be somewhat pretty sound Sonic Youth has and Swervedriver had that I don't see how anybody could really get into but is uninteresting enough to be not crap but not NOT CRAP. always hated swerverdriver though.

I see how Sonic Youth is passionless (probably the reason I don't like them) but I think that TOD music has a lot of emotion in it.

You hear that their record got pushed back to January instead of October because Interscope thinks it might lessen the sales for U2 and Eminem. I know I'll buy the ...AYWKUBTTOD. I also know I would never buy the new U2 or Eminem.

One of them punched a hole in the wall at my friend's studio. And the music is lame emo-drama. CRAP.

. . .And You Will Know Us By the Trail of Hype And You Will Forget Us By Our Trail of Crap.

some of the stuff on "madonna" was ok. everything else i heard was pretty much shit.

breaking instruments is always lame. i've broken a few and my little heart broke with 'em. i didn't do it on purpose, ma, it was an accident i swear. costly, stupid, childish and above all else, pointless. it's not gonna make me enjoy your show more. if i ever see a guy about to my plan is to run up behind him and steal it before he can break it. you don't want it, well i might.

Yeah, breaking instruments is definitely lame. And you will kneowosuus siebyythe .......has some cool moments. That one CD of their's, I guess it's there best one, is an awesome recording, i think. It's unique, and I love the cymbal sounds.

But, I saw them live opening for Queens of the Stone Age, and they were the worst sounding band i had seen in a while. And that one guy should never play drums.

borderline CRAP.

I once snapped a neck off of a Epiphone SG by accident. I had intended to break it at that show since I could get no money for it and I had acquired a beautiful Guild SG. So I"m flailing around with it and I accidentally smacked the neck on the stage and it broke in half. Poor showmanship on my part.

I saw them at Siren in NY this summer and they STUNK. And seemed like a bunch've morons to top it off. Total Crap.