there seems to be this sort of prevailing attitude here that starting a recording business is this sort of step a then step b eventually winding up at something that looks like the recording studios that you, or y'alls, have paid a month's salary to record at. i'll bet we all listen to records that were recorded on medium format machines in make-shift spaces for small amounts of money by people with day jobs.

weezy wrote:What's the point of this thread?whats the point of any thread i start? to troll you guys and make myself feel important. duh.

fuck a computer. there is a prevailing false axiom that somehow recording digitally is cheaper and more reliable than recording analog. i am betting that investing in a 1/4" 2 track (or two) and a backup multitrack will be cheaper/more economically viable in the long run than getting an interface, a dedicated computer, converters, and storage, plus all the time wasted backing up files.i just can't with digital, and recording to analog is rare enough to be a commodity unto itself. kids are buying cassettes again! new all vinyl record stores are opening and surviving. managing fucking data storage is a fucking pain in the ass and gets expensive. once it's on tape, it's backed up. someone loses the files or the fucking platform fails, we just rip another copy into the box. you will prove me wrong, but i will refuse to hear it.

Yeah, if you're looking at it practically I don't see how analog is cheaper or easier. Hard Drives are cheaper than Tape, and as for the time spent making HD backups, are you not making tape backups? Because having a single copy of physical media isn't as reliable as having two copies of digital (including one backed up to cloud or another location.) . If you're starting with an existing analog setup then that's definitely a factor, but for anyone looking at total cost of ownership from scratch I think Digital comes out ahead. That being said, you may be able to charge some people more for analog (likewise some client may be put off by lack of capabilities available with digital.)If the argument is pertaining to the sound, then yes, the sound is definitely different with a console / tape setup.

eliya wrote:Yes and no. I'm using a 2012 MacBook Pro that's still going strong. Electrical used (still uses?) a Mac Pro that is over 10 years old. So yes, a lot of electronics nowadays is made to be obsolete in a few years, but in my experience Macs have been surpassing their life expectancy, just like tape machines have surpassed theirs. +1 on this. My Mac Mini from the same era is still running well (after upgrading the RAM). Am wondering: at some point, do you stop upgrading the OS? Experience has shown that with phones and my iPad, there will come a time when an OS upgrade is a bridge too far for old hardware. Assume this is true for Mac OS as well.

Justin Foley wrote:After thinking about this a lot, I believe there are two primary advantages to digital recording and one to analog.- Digital recording is easier to edit and manipulate. - It is also easier to share with others.= JustinAs an adjunct to your first point, the near instantaneous recall of previous sessions is a game-changer. My own band - people in their 40s with kids - were able to track and mix piecemeal over the course of a year with little concern about calibrating machines or manually recalling console settings and patches. We'd just go in for an evening and instantly pick up where we left off. It's a whole methodology that didn't exist back when the workflow of making records usually meant spending several contiguous days in a studio.

n.c. wrote:there seems to be this sort of prevailing attitude here that starting a recording business is this sort of step a then step b eventually winding up at something that looks like the recording studios that you, or y'alls, have paid a month's salary to record at. i'll bet we all listen to records that were recorded on medium format machines in make-shift spaces for small amounts of money by people with day jobs.is that it? Or did you make a post on a forum, and people were offering their fairly educated experience on what we assume your desires are - You've stated in other threads that you want to get going with studio as a business no? Maybe I'm mistaken and if that's the case then apologies. People here have experiences and are trying to offer an outside perspective because like you said, you already made your mind up so we might as well throw an angle your way.In any case a makeshift-studio n small amounts of money would probably have the MOST interest in not spending time with steep learning curves, less flexibility and hidden costs of ownership in a process (tape).

n.c. wrote:fuck a computer. there is a prevailing false axiom that somehow recording digitally is cheaper and more reliable than recording analog. i am betting that investing in a 1/4" 2 track (or two) and a backup multitrack will be cheaper/more economically viable in the long run than getting an interface, a dedicated computer, converters, and storage, plus all the time wasted backing up files.i just can't with digital, and recording to analog is rare enough to be a commodity unto itself. kids are buying cassettes again! new all vinyl record stores are opening and surviving. managing fucking data storage is a fucking pain in the ass and gets expensive. once it's on tape, it's backed up. someone loses the files or the fucking platform fails, we just rip another copy into the box. you will prove me wrong, but i will refuse to hear it.I don't dislike your moxy at all - tape makes drummers hit better, but tape storage once you start to build up a catalog will start to get expensive. I mean, you ever move with a decent record collection?Data storage these days .. 4TB for $100? Google Drive 1TB / $10 a month? This is my favorite USB stick right now - they're relatively bulletproof, from sandisk and cost nothing. Mr. Fancy blue light.https://www.bestbuy.com/site/sandisk-ul ... Id=92110781. Make Album2. Put on USB Stick. 3. Include in cost of recording - one for you/one for me. 4. Place in curiosity shelf with band-chosen Font. All have fun choosing font.5. laugh and Laugh and laughI think digital is cheaper up-front on the 'get the skills you need to succeed' front.

What's the point of this thread?If you want to stay with tape, then do it. If you have most the gear to fully go that route, then do it 100%. Dudes on the internet aren't going to convince you otherwise if you're mind is already set, so have fun and good luck.

n.c. wrote:you will prove me wrong, but i will refuse to hear it.Wow, ok. Are you going to hold your breath until you turn blue too? If digital still sounded like digital from 20-25 years ago, you'd have more of a point, I'd be right there with you, but things have improved over the years. For my non-work, personal realm, I feel that I'm doing fine with a PC and a good set of ears.