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Re: How we make experimental noise

Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2021 6:44 pm
by turnbullac
penningtron wrote: Mon Oct 18, 2021 3:06 pm I'd be curious to hear about experiments using contact mics, triggers, percussion pads and things of that nature, as I've been looking into integrating more of that into a drum kit.
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Re: How we make experimental noise

Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2021 6:47 pm
by turnbullac
Also fixed youtube

Re: How we make experimental noise

Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2021 8:48 am
by penningtron
Garth wrote:
penningtron wrote: I'd be curious to hear about experiments using contact mics, triggers, percussion pads and things of that nature, as I've been looking into integrating more of that into a drum kit.
This stuff can be a lot of fun but takes legit good PA to be done w/ any impact which can make it cost prohibitive from the jump considering the places most of us play may not even have monitors and lugging an extra amp that's powerful enough to make this work along w/ your drums...bleh
hmmm.. maybe we're not talking about the same thing because I've pulled it off a bit with amps I have around. The contact or regular mics trigger other sounds (synth pedal, arpeggiator, etc.) and then that goes into the amp. It gets crazy pretty quick without some gates or whatever and that's why I was curious for ideas to integrate this with other noise making stuff.

Re: How we make experimental noise

Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2021 9:32 am
by Garth
penningtron wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 8:48 am
Garth wrote:
penningtron wrote: I'd be curious to hear about experiments using contact mics, triggers, percussion pads and things of that nature, as I've been looking into integrating more of that into a drum kit.
This stuff can be a lot of fun but takes legit good PA to be done w/ any impact which can make it cost prohibitive from the jump considering the places most of us play may not even have monitors and lugging an extra amp that's powerful enough to make this work along w/ your drums...bleh
hmmm.. maybe we're not talking about the same thing because I've pulled it off a bit with amps I have around. The contact or regular mics trigger other sounds (synth pedal, arpeggiator, etc.) and then that goes into the amp. It gets crazy pretty quick without some gates or whatever and that's why I was curious for ideas to integrate this with other noise making stuff.
We probably are on the same page. I'm mostly just talking about accurate reproduction of the sound like through a big PA but I reckon if we're talking about something "noisy" than it doesn't have to be pristine. Either way, I think that demo you put on FB a bit ago shows you're on track for something awesome.

Re: How we make experimental noise

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2021 12:44 am
by VaticanShotglass
Just now getting to read this thread. Thanks for making it. Diving in now.

Re: How we make experimental noise

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2021 12:31 pm
by Verge of Light
I've been meaning to share this for a while. This guy has a ton of interesting videos. This one would probably be a good place to start...


Re: How we make experimental noise

Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2021 11:11 am
by Garth
I'm all about jam econo. I think Jon Strasheim did an entire set w/ pedals, a bass amp and an unplugged instrument cable.

I think the only $$$ is if you're trying to make it loud enough to fill a room or if you're trying to accurately reproduce something.

I used to incorporate a lot of noise/drone into solo live sets for transitions between songs or when I would (inevitably) fuck a song up and just wash into noise.

Electro-faustus makes a lot of cool noise generators that, while affordable to me, could still fall into the "noise-lawyer" category since they weren't scavenged from the dumpster of an old electronics lab undergoing reno. I also like using hand-held battery-powered things, especially if they can be picked up by the magnets of my bass. This plus a pile of dime-store effects pedals...well you might find yourself unable to write songs anymore and just sit in the basement for hours trancing out and manipulating knobs.

Re: How we make experimental noise

Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2021 11:44 am
by Kniferide
We keep a roll of blue painters tape on top of the Rhodes so we can tape keys of the Nord, Farfisa, Micro Brute, and Hohner string synth down and make crazy drones. Then I'll start up a drum machine through a bunch of guitar pedals and play guitar with it. Sometimes I'll make a loop or two on the EH 45000 and play drums, but I super suck at drums. Really slow ring modulators followed by really slow phasers and flangers are super cool for breaking up drones. We refer to this style of jams as "doing white keys" because they are the easiest to tape down. Sometimes you can wedge a guitar pick or a pencil in the gap between the black keys and the chassis of the synth to get them to stay down, but it is cheating.

Re: How we make experimental noise

Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2021 12:03 pm
by Kniferide
I made this thing too.


Re: How we make experimental noise

Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2021 12:37 pm
by twelvepoint
Kniferide wrote: Thu Oct 21, 2021 12:03 pm I made this thing too.

That is awesome. Care to describe what's under the hood there? If it's a trade secret I understand!