Not getting rid of my wife's Wolf. No freakin' way. I LOVE cooking with that thing. She was smart enough to install a real ventilator when she rebuilt this house we live in. Big commercial ventilator that blows outside and moves a ton of air. No worries from me.

I don't want to go down the "but gas heat" hole because modern high efficiency furnaces have exhaust profiles that are much different than what comes out of a stove and that shit is even more directly vented outside. But here's another complication: modern dwellings are much tighter than older ones so products of combustion may not dissipate as readily in such places, but I don't see how any study could control for a factor like that.

The “only acceptable way to cook food” thing is a successful marketing campaign. That said, you have to be a bit wasteful to do well on a coil electric stove - basically you keep a couple burners going per pot in case you need to move it over to a hotter or cooler one. That makes up for the slow temperature changes.

Induction is better unless you’re married to copper or stainless pans. Modern stainless ones have a ferromagnetic bottom anyway.

The problem is still too many humans and too many cultural relics. Around the turn of the 19th to 20th centuries, for like two whole generations, furnaces were coal fired. It was filthy, you couldn’t keep stuff in your basement because of the coal dust, and it polluted like crazy. Nobody was sad to see coal furnaces go once oil and gas were available. Shitty coal furnaces didn’t get the culture warrior endorsement though.

This is all old news. https://www.motherjones.com/environment ... rs-stoves/

Adding some links to this thread.

Link to the technical report that initially resulted in an agency commissioner from the CPSC saying that "Any option is on the table. Products that can't be made safe can be banned.": https://www.mdpi.com/1660-4601/20/1/75

Link to official statement from the CPSC chair yesterday that they are not looking to ban gas stoves: https://www.cpsc.gov/About-CPSC/Chairma ... Gas-Stoves

My conclusion: I'm going to keep using my gas range, but will keep an eye on this, and will also make sure I more consistently use the exhaust fan in the range hood.

zorg wrote: Thu Jan 12, 2023 2:06 am That said, I prefer my induction range for most things, especially the ease in cleaning.

Yeah, I'd rather have induction than gas at this point. And newer electric stoves are better than the coil-y ones I grew up with, though there is a learning curve to controlling the heat.

Like any open flame application (furnace, fireplace, stove, what have you), it's essential to have adequate venting. That's a no brainer. Still, natural gas is a clean burn, so I tend to be less alarmist about it. I'll echo the same sentiments about cooking; gas can't be beat.

Oh.. and I didn't realize this was the latest culture war. Ugh. I hope some MAGAheads blow themselves to smithereens trying to own the libs..

penningtron wrote: Thu Jan 12, 2023 9:49 am Oh.. and I didn't realize this was the latest culture war. Ugh. I hope some MAGAheads blow themselves to smithereens trying to own the libs..

Yes, folks on both sides - but primarily MAGAheads - who jump to conclusions without reading articles and who are incapable of taking a nuanced stance on anything.

Lighting a cigarette on an electric stove is for the birds.

Would absolutely go for a good induction/electric stove and get rid of the gas, along with getting rid of our other gas appliances (water heater and furnace).

Would absolutely be happy if a bunch of MAGAs decide to run their gas stoves 24/7 without lighting them to own the libs until they fall into a deep, deep sleep.

penningtron wrote: Thu Jan 12, 2023 9:49 am Oh.. and I didn't realize this was the latest culture war. Ugh. I hope some MAGAheads blow themselves to smithereens trying to own the libs..

playbook for the left is pretty simple if this poll is any indication. simply don't regulate gas stoves.