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The expression Woke

Crap
Total votes: 5 (38%)
Not crap
Total votes: 7 (54%)
Meaningless.
Total votes: 1 (8%)
Total votes: 13

Re: Word - Woke

11 by ChudFusk
losthighway wrote: Mon Nov 25, 2024 9:43 am I'm so conflicted because I worry there is no term that a 21st century Civil rights movement can coin, that Maga won't wield like a slur so constantly that it becomes a distorted political liability.

Mother fuckers are now loudly talking about Diversity Equity and Inclusion like they're what's wrong with our country.
It's only a slur if we act ashamed of it. Shitlibs have shied away from the concept of being woke because conservatives say it like it's a bad thing. But the term comes from black vernacular and it still means the same thing when said in the right context.

I think this poll is unfair without a third option of Not Crap.
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Re: Word - Woke

12 by kokorodoko
losthighway wrote: Mon Nov 25, 2024 9:43 am I'm so conflicted because I worry there is no term that a 21st century Civil rights movement can coin, that Maga won't wield like a slur so constantly that it becomes a distorted political liability.
Wrong thing to worry about since it's nothing you can control. People can use words however they want. It's only a liability if, as the above poster said, you believe it is.
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Re: Word - Woke

13 by losthighway
ChudFusk wrote: Mon Nov 25, 2024 12:52 pm It's only a slur if we act ashamed of it. Shitlibs have shied away from the concept of being woke because conservatives say it like it's a bad thing. But the term comes from black vernacular and it still means the same thing when said in the right context.
kokorodoko wrote: Wrong thing to worry about since it's nothing you can control. People can use words however they want. It's only a liability if, as the above poster said, you believe it is.
Y'all are right. I think the resurgence of the American right has me on my back foot. This is not a time for letting them dictate the rules of the game. Thank you for speaking up for reason.

Re: Word - Woke

15 by DaveA
Quite bad coming out the mouth of a Ron DeSantis or Elon Musk type person. Good god.

Neutral/not inherently bad in other circumstances.

But I kind of hate the culture wars at this point. Sorry. As a dude who gets good stuff done in other facets of his life, I don't feel the culture wars are necessarily that productive. Prolonged engagement in this arena can make a lot of otherwise okay people seem less appealing, and lead to infighting. Even people who seem to be on "the right side of history" can be very petty and overbearing and engage in all manner of groupthink/personal dickheadedness. And yet, assuming the stance of a Bill Maher sort of cultural critic doesn't cut it. Growing tired of shit on the left also isn't an excuse to turn conservative; I've made it a point not to fall into this trap. Broadly, I agree with a lot of progressive ideals, but often feel the need to tune people out. Time is limited, and I often prefer to focus on other things.
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Re: Word - Woke

16 by rsmurphy
DaveA wrote: Mon Nov 25, 2024 6:18 pm But I kind of hate the culture wars at this point.
For a war to happen first there needs to be an attack. We shouldn't be complacent when they attack us.
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Re: Word - Woke

17 by Gramsci
ChudFusk wrote: Mon Nov 25, 2024 12:52 pm
losthighway wrote: Mon Nov 25, 2024 9:43 am I'm so conflicted because I worry there is no term that a 21st century Civil rights movement can coin, that Maga won't wield like a slur so constantly that it becomes a distorted political liability.

Mother fuckers are now loudly talking about Diversity Equity and Inclusion like they're what's wrong with our country.
It's only a slur if we act ashamed of it. Shitlibs have shied away from the concept of being woke because conservatives say it like it's a bad thing. But the term comes from black vernacular and it still means the same thing when said in the right context.

I think this poll is unfair without a third option of Not Crap.
Fixed.

But I should contextualise a little. I had this poll in my head in the UK context, where it has no relation to its origin in African American language. I was looking at a London news account on the Socials about a new tram/bus hybrid and a bunch of weirdos started calling it a “woke” bus… it seems to now just mean “I’m not a libtard and anything I don’t like is ‘woke’”.
clocker bob may 30, 2006 wrote:I think the possibility of interbreeding between an earthly species and an extraterrestrial species is as believable as any other explanation for the existence of George W. Bush.

Re: Word - Woke

19 by Gramsci
Another case of raw stupidity was Gibson sending Trump a cease and desist for his fucking laming Trump Guitar. Which is a cheap bolt-on with a Les Paul body shape. Gibson sue everyone about this. The comments were full of “Gibson goes woke”… followed by, “you guys know about Gibson’s CEO right?” 😭

Look up that guitar it’s hilarious
clocker bob may 30, 2006 wrote:I think the possibility of interbreeding between an earthly species and an extraterrestrial species is as believable as any other explanation for the existence of George W. Bush.

Re: Word - Woke

20 by Ranxerox
losthighway wrote: Mon Nov 25, 2024 9:43 am I'm so conflicted because I worry there is no term that a 21st century Civil rights movement can coin, that Maga won't wield like a slur so constantly that it becomes a distorted political liability.

Mother fuckers are now loudly talking about Diversity Equity and Inclusion like they're what's wrong with our country.
'Woke' is a term that represents the end of any widespread agreements on the basic idea that equality matters in some senses and context, and that diversity is worth accounting for. I have never personally heard someone claim 'wokeness' for themselves.

Obviously, accounting for the circumstances and histories of one's own group and its power relations to others should be basic.

The conversion of that type of humanist care into a byword for selfishness and disregard is crap.
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