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NOT CRAP.

It's solid. The cinematography and production design are great. It's not a patch on Murnau's or Herzog's, though, or even Coppola's Dracula for that matter.

Wood Goblin wrote: Wed Jan 08, 2025 11:19 am Here’s my hot take on the Murnau original:

It’s fine.

Faust, The Last Laugh, and (especially) Sunrise are all better.

Hard agree. Sunrise is maybe my favourite film (depending on the day)

strontiumtom wrote: Wed Jan 08, 2025 3:47 pm

Wood Goblin wrote: Wed Jan 08, 2025 11:19 am Here’s my hot take on the Murnau original:

It’s fine.

Faust, The Last Laugh, and (especially) Sunrise are all better.

Hard agree. Sunrise is maybe my favourite film (depending on the day)

We watched Sunrise with our teenaged kids last year, and they loved it. They were dead quiet during the scenes on a boat.

Wood Goblin wrote: We watched Sunrise with our teenaged kids last year, and they loved it. They were dead quiet during the scenes on a boat.

This is wonderful

Good movie. Lily Depp was amazing. Special effects (audio and visual) were great as well.

I'm a fan of the director and was looking forward to this but somewhere not long after the half way point...i just wanted it to be over.

Looked great. Sounded great but for some reason it just did nothing for me.

strontiumtom wrote: Wed Jan 08, 2025 9:20 am I'll see it, will probably like it, but right now - after Murnau and Herzog - I don't understand what the point of it is.

Passion project + previous success + IP recognisable from gifs/ memes?

Definitely a passion project. Eggers apparently staged a Nosferatu play in high school, and has been obsessed with the original since he first saw it at age 9.

Movie fucking rules. Loved everything about it. If *anything,* I would say the pacing felt a bit rushed until Thomas got to the castle and got munched on a bit. Then things started to settle in. But seriously. Performances were outstanding -- Depp and Dafoe were brilliant (I mean, of course Dafoe was brilliant). Sound design, cinematography, score, all excellent.

Was super interested in the difference in vibe between Eggers' Orlock and Herzog's. Kinski as Orlock was sort of more of a creepy incel - the way he would hover and awkwardly stare at the Thomas/Jonathan character in the '79 version before striking felt like an awkward, lonely bro who can't get laid, whereas the Bill Skarsgard version was much more malevolent and purposeful in being fucking evil. Both great, just very interesting differences in presentation.

All the stuff with 19th century medicine trying to treat Emma was really unnerving. We really haven't progressed as far as we'd like to think we have in dealing with women's mental health. Put a corset on her! I dunno, just lose weight! Same shit, different century.

NOT CRAP

Pretty good flick. A little longer than it needed to be. I maybe fell asleep for 3 minutes, so, not bad.

DrAwkward wrote: Tue Jan 14, 2025 10:43 am All the stuff with 19th century medicine trying to treat Emma was really unnerving. We really haven't progressed as far as we'd like to think we have in dealing with women's mental health. Put a corset on her! I dunno, just lose weight! Same shit, different century.

YES, my god. That jumped out at me, too.

Still digesting, but as many online have said: visually and aurally extremely striking but a bit lacking in character development and plot.
I suppose Eggers is maybe a bit like a modern Tim Burton..

Great if you want to just enjoy the carnival ride.