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Re: Modern times - Remixing music without the multitrack
Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2025 6:48 pm
by four_oclocker_2.2
cakes wrote: Thu Apr 24, 2025 3:51 pm
There already exists a remix of And Justice that someone did years ago that brought the bass up. Anyone here remember it?
Oh yeah - wasn't it called
...And Justice for Jason?
Re: Modern times - Remixing music without the multitrack
Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2025 6:00 pm
by mdc
iirc, the one that was floating around previously was based on someone recording a bass play-along and then mixing that in with the actual recording.
Re: Modern times - Remixing music without the multitrack
Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2025 6:51 am
by Gramsci
four_oclocker_2.2 wrote: Thu Apr 24, 2025 6:48 pm
cakes wrote: Thu Apr 24, 2025 3:51 pm
There already exists a remix of And Justice that someone did years ago that brought the bass up. Anyone here remember it?
Oh yeah - wasn't it called
...And Justice for Jason?
Yeah. There’s a few of these around. The older ones are someone playing over the top. I imagine the new ones using AI tool are better.
Re: Modern times - Remixing music without the multitrack
Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2025 6:59 am
by Gramsci
MoreSpaceEcho wrote: Wed Apr 23, 2025 10:52 am
You can get a 30 day full-functioning demo of Steinberg's Spectralayers that can separate the stems:
https://www.steinberg.net/spectralayers/
Very simple to use: load in your track, hit 'unmix song' and it'll give you stems for vocals, guitar, bass, drums, and 'other'. You can then take that drum track, hit 'unmix drums', and it'll give you separate kick, snare, cymbals and hihat tracks.
You can either rebalance these stems within Spectralayers or bounce them out to remix in your DAW of choice.
If you listen to any of these stems solo'd, you'll hear weird watery artifacts, like little bits of the cymbals in the guitar tracks, stuff like that. Shit will sound weird in solo, but if you put all the stems back together, they do indeed null with the original file down to at least -100dbfs, which is plenty good enough for this sort of thing.
If you just want to adjust some levels, turn the vocals down or whatever, no problem at all. Some eq is probably also ok. But if you're doing anything non-linear, compression, saturation, tape sim, whatever, you can COMPLETELY FUCK IT ALL UP, the phase relationship between the stems will go crazy and it'll sound really awful. So be very careful, you can't just remix with abandon like you could with an actual multitrack.
This is pretty cool. Some tracks are near perfect splits. There a few bits I might ask for some tech support on.
Re: Modern times - Remixing music without the multitrack
Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2025 10:28 am
by MoreSpaceEcho
Awesome! Glad it worked out, it's pretty amazing what it can do. I used it on an old band's project as well and it did better with that than it did with AJFA.
Which I should have for you guys today! Thanks for your patience. I'm so sick of listening to it but it needed some fussing.
Re: Modern times - Remixing music without the multitrack
Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2025 11:45 am
by Gramsci
Question post stem export. What’s the best way to split a stereo track into two mono tracks?
Some of the guitar stems the split is super clean between left and right guitars.
Re: Modern times - Remixing music without the multitrack
Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2025 2:00 pm
by Gramsci
Gramsci wrote: Sun Apr 27, 2025 11:45 am
Question post stem export. What’s the best way to split a stereo track into two mono tracks?
Some of the guitar stems the split is super clean between left and right guitars.
The answer is Reaper evidently.
Re: Modern times - Remixing music without the multitrack
Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2025 2:18 pm
by Gramsci
I'm going to need some help with the remixing... I'll start a "can you help me" thread...