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Posted: **Tue Sep 09, 2025 4:37 pm**

ChudFusk wrote: Tue Sep 09, 2025 2:25 pm I considered saying "because they're warm and punchy" but I figured that would make the joke too obvious, but apparently it wasn't because nobody knew I was joking.

Dear Leader is definitely on record saying he used them for the same reasons everyone else did (if it sounds good on there it sounds good anywhere, etc) in an interview somewhere. I think a magazine caught him after a trade show, sometime in the 90s maybe?

Not that that means he used them forever but I’m sure a lot of good records were mixed on those things.

Posted: **Tue Sep 09, 2025 4:38 pm**

I’m not sorry:

MF: How did the CD of the PJ Harvey album sound on the Apogees? Brighter than how you mixed it?

SA: Yea, those were very revealing speakers, tonally the speakers were quite flat. I tend to listen to speakers that are thuddingly bass heavy.

MF: What do you monitor on?

SA: Near field monitors.

MF: Like?

SA: Yamaha NS-10Ms

MF: Why? Why? Why?

SA: Because they sound like shit! And if you can make a record that sounds convincing on Yamaha NS-10Ms, then you have achieved something. When you get to a system that is flatter and has more detail, you will not be losing anything. For a more accurate monitor I like the Westlake BBSM 4s. A dual cone nearfield monitor with I think a one inch high-frequency driver. They sound great, good imaging, and detail and all that crap

Posted: **Tue Sep 09, 2025 4:58 pm**

ChudFusk wrote: Tue Sep 09, 2025 2:25 pm I considered saying "because they're warm and punchy" but I figured that would make the joke too obvious, but apparently it wasn't because nobody knew I was joking.

It's hard to tell because the word on the street is STILL that everyone needs a pair of NS10s. I guess if you ride a bike with 1 big wheel in the front and take laudanum for consumption.... You may need NS10s too.

Posted: **Tue Sep 09, 2025 7:50 pm**

ChudFusk wrote: Tue Sep 09, 2025 2:25 pm I considered saying "because they're warm and punchy" but I figured that would make the joke too obvious, but apparently it wasn't because nobody knew I was joking.

No one here is funny or has a sense of humor.

Posted: **Wed Sep 10, 2025 8:11 am**

Kniferide wrote: Tue Sep 09, 2025 4:58 pmI guess if you ride a bike with 1 big wheel in the front and take laudanum for consumption....

I'd like to consume some laudanum

Posted: **Wed Sep 10, 2025 9:06 am**

NS10Ms are still ubiquitous because they have (by accident or design) time domain response that is near perfect.

The little powered iLouds are about as good as you're going to find in that price range, I've had my set for almost a decade and am still using them every day and never thinking about them.

Posted: **Wed Sep 10, 2025 9:57 am**

Wow it doesn't take much to turn any thread into a NS-10 thread huh? Maybe I should mention them in one of deep_biden@lookatme.com's dumb hreads

Posted: **Thu Oct 09, 2025 1:22 pm**

I got the Presonus Erises, and they were beautiful, but way too big for the desk, so I returned them. Ended up buying a pair of Edifier M60s that are super, and petite:

(photo from this review, but the size in particular sold me).

Great sound right out the box. It passed the Alabama Shakes Sound and Color test I give all my speakers, and they were only $150. They also come with little aluminum tilt stands, and plug into my cpu via USB-C, so I still have a jack for headphone mixing. killer. Couldn't be happier about this result.

Posted: **Thu Oct 09, 2025 2:09 pm**

kerble wrote: Thu Oct 09, 2025 1:22 pm I got the Presonus Erises, and they were beautiful, but way too big for the desk, so I returned them. Ended up buying a pair of Edifier M60s that are super, and petite:
(photo from this review, but the size in particular sold me).

Great sound right out the box. It passed the Alabama Shakes Sound and Color test I give all my speakers, and they were only $150. They also come with little aluminum tilt stands, and plug into my cpu via USB-C, so I still have a jack for headphone mixing. killer. Couldn't be happier about this result.

They look like Optimus Pro 7's, which are my prefered tiny speaker over any of those mix cube things. I approve!

Posted: **Fri Mar 06, 2026 3:48 pm**

Five months later, just saying that I am super happy with the Edifier M60 speakers. Mostly, I don't think about them at all, and shit just sounds great all the time. All I adjust, even for mixing, is just the volume. For the $150 I paid, can't do better. Five stars.

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