kenoki wrote:i wish, if we were going to differentiate between sucky US states (in a really sucky country), people would get more creative than florida and texas. i realize they are big on the map and all but still...

What do you want to hear? That Maine keeps fuckin' up?

Texas and Florida cause the most mischief -- both to their own citizenry and to the U.S. as a whole. No other state really comes close to either one of these states in terms of the problems that they cause. Each state has its particular redeeming qualities (e.g., Texas - BBQ; Florida - hurricane entertainment on The Weather Channel), and I'm sure that life will find me in one of these states at one point. But they really deserve their reputations, and I'd be happy to see them go for many reasons.

Especially Texas. All hat. No cowboy.

One of these days I'm just going to sell the farm and head to Kiribati.

lawrence wrote:

although i wish, if we were going to differentiate between sucky US states (in a really sucky country), people would get more creative than florida and texas.

comparing florida and texas to other states that suck doesn't detract from the fact that both are inherently shitty, so what, exactly, is your point?? would you feel better if people made a point to mention that michigan and utah were assy places in the same breath?

yes, yes i would feel better. and, i'm not sure if you guys noticed this too, but I'm pretty certain that every state sucks which hasn't seceeded yet, so i guess that means, every state sucks. people can (and have for like ever) singled out texas and florida cause its easy, sort of partitioned off from the rest of the states, and a bush was governor, but not only is it a used up joke but it sort of detracts from a bigger, more valid and empathetic point. or that if elections were fraudulant (yeah yeah, but in the case of both gov and prez, i think there's a good chance), floridians (and maybe texans but i dunno cause i haven't lived there for 7 years) on the whole were screwed. screwed out of a fair education, out of their vote, out of clean air, out of clean water, out of safe roads and bridges, and out of a governor who is in the least bit concerned with the state and people he represents.

tx and fl are cheaper to live in than most coastal states and have really intense natural histories... and the people/land (which I think are what equal florida/texas, not the capital building), though i think it goes mostly unnoted/overshadowed by the empirical powers that be, aren't collectively bad enough (red, ok, yeah red, misguided, ok, a bit misguided) to be singled out. these are BIG SOUTHERN states with LOTS of people, so it's a little harder to keep under control/the radar than your more liberal states as say, new hampshire. ok, sorry, i'm slowely losing my point cause it's raining but...

i will leave it at.

i love florida rain. and my neighbors are hilarious. that's florida, to me... but maybe i don't read enough drudge report?

i love florida rain

Yeee haw!! Point taken, brother. One day, dixie's gonna rise up again and smoosh mashed potatoes all over America's face!! Come over my house for din din, Mama's makin' deep fried panties.

Vince Clortho wrote:

i love florida rain

Yeee haw!! Point taken, brother. One day, dixie's gonna rise up again and smoosh mashed potatoes all over America's face!! Come over my house for din din, Mama's makin' deep fried panties.

efriend!!!!!! i am so bummmmmeeeddddd!!!!!

kenoki wrote:people can (and have for like ever) singled out texas and florida cause its easy

Yup.

It's like shooting fish in a barrel.

With a cannon.

yes, yes i would feel better.

okay, okay, so michigan and utah and texas and florida all can bite a shit. happier?

i'm guessing (feel free to correct me) that you're getting all up-at-arms about florida because you're tampa based? calm down. i live in oakland which has plenty of downside to it, so does all of california for christ's sake, land that's so left-leaning that you can't smoke in bars anymore, how free is that? don't get me started.

anyhoo, what i see as florida's shortcomings mostly has to do with the weather and the population and the insects that seem to be almost as thick as the humidity. people don't pick on florida because it's an easy target, they pick on it because it sucks.

Seriously, yer all being a bunch of homo-sexys. Texas is the reason....




That the president's dead...


I love me some Misfits...


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lawrence wrote:

yes, yes i would feel better.

okay, okay, so michigan and utah and texas and florida all can bite a shit. happier?

i'm guessing (feel free to correct me) that you're getting all up-at-arms about florida because you're tampa based? calm down. i live in oakland which has plenty of downside to it, so does all of california for christ's sake, land that's so left-leaning that you can't smoke in bars anymore, how free is that? don't get me started.

anyhoo, what i see as florida's shortcomings mostly has to do with the weather and the population and the insects that seem to be almost as thick as the humidity. people don't pick on florida because it's an easy target, they pick on it because it sucks.

WHAT!? WHAT!? Wait, yes there are insects. Oh man, actually yesterday there was a catepillar on my arm IN MY OWN HOUSE, but it is dead now so we won't rattle its grave. In fact when I first came here, at the tender age of 18, I couldn't believe there was such a thing as flying cockroaches, but low and behold, my worst nightmare came true.

HOWEVER I have figured out that God created balance in this most insane penninsula. Cause though there are a repulsive # of gators, other gross reptiles, and insects (and yeah humidity) there are also MANATEES AND DOLPHINS AND HUGE OWLS and giant packs of pelicans. I don't know about you, but a friendly-Manatee-encounter would make even eating shit seem better. They're so fat and cute and nice. So quit harrassing the state that has my best friends in it! My owl friends are pissed too. Not to mention, Hank.

All right yall,

Rest assured that Texas hates you back. Even if the people there don't lynch you and fajita your corpse you will eventually succomb to the heat, fireants, killer bees, mountain lions, grapefruit-sized hail, menudo, feral hogs, copperheads, alligator and emu sausage, bull nettle, flash floods, cow brain tacos, or shitty Stevie Ray Vaughn solos.

But let's get one thing straight... Bush is not from Texas. Neither is his dad. They have more ties to Connnecticuit, Massechussets, and Saudi Arabia than to the hastily purchased "ranch" in Crawford (anyone in their right mind knows a real ranch needs to be in the Rio Grande valley or the Hill Country). Sure that little bitch might have been govenor for a while (so was Ann Richards), but if you take a long glance at the lengthy Texas constitution you will note that it is a relatively powerless position which is legitimately challenged by the Lt. Governor and even the Railroad Commissioner. Anyone who attributes W to Texas is buying into an ellaborately constructed comic book identity designed by neocons and ad execs. So what if we eat a couple of fetuses here and there! Obviously there are plenty of folks in TX who never voted for a Bush.

On the positive side, the wastelands of Texas produced Townes Van Zandt, Gibby Haynes, Mance Lipscomb, Jimmy "make it conjunto, carnal!" Garcia, David Yow, Willie Nelson, Albert Collins, Kevin Whitley, Santiago Jimenez, Chris Christopherson (joking), Bill Moyers, and Kinky Friedman, and David Koresh (a man who knows how to smoke meat).

Lets barbeque!

You forgot John Denver and Lee Harvey Oswald.

They even went to the same high school!

mb