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Genre: Rap

Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 9:49 am
by charliedontsurf_Archive
world of pee wrote:
roberto wrote:
Marsupialized wrote:is there still rap music?



yeah but the college kids ONLY call it "Hip Hop"



well, i don't think it's just the college kids. i think while there's a lot of disagreement over terms (just like in rock -- no kidding! who's punk and who's not?) there's a widespread notion among lots of people who may or may not have ever been in college that

hip hop is the genre
rap is the vocal style of the genre

sort of like

metal is the genre
chugging is the rhythm guitar style of the genre
shredding is the lead guitar style of the genre

therefore

hip hop is made by rappers and producers and djs, and if you want to extend beyond music, the "four elements of hip hop" also include breakdancers and graffiti artists.

rap was a more popular term in the past because the genre was new so it was like "oh you know, the music with the rapping", sort of like how every rapper had MC in their name, and now they don't, but they still refer to each other as MCs. why? because they all still consider themselves MCs, and refer to rapping as MCing, so at this point in time they don't need to state in their names.

make sense?

KRS One:
Rap is something you do. Hip hop is something you live.

Genre: Rap

Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 10:31 am
by Heliotropic_Archive
GhostFace wrote:could someone please explain to me how in hell soulja boy is a fucking hit? I mean thats got to be the worst song I have ever heard, there isn't even a verse. Its just moaning and grunting and the occasional super soak that ho!?!?!?


Because he's a trill ass nigga who brings the hot shit for real, stuffing it in the faces of all those ghost faced whipcrackers.

Genre: Rap

Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 5:32 pm
by big_dave_Archive
Brought out Stetsasonic In Full Gear tonight. Patchy as fuck but the highs are worth it.

Genre: Rap

Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 8:54 pm
by roberto_Archive
world of pee wrote:
roberto wrote:
Marsupialized wrote:is there still rap music?



yeah but the college kids ONLY call it "Hip Hop"



well, i don't think it's just the college kids. i think while there's a lot of disagreement over terms (just like in rock -- no kidding! who's punk and who's not?) there's a widespread notion among lots of people who may or may not have ever been in college that

hip hop is the genre
rap is the vocal style of the genre

sort of like

metal is the genre
chugging is the rhythm guitar style of the genre
shredding is the lead guitar style of the genre

therefore

hip hop is made by rappers and producers and djs, and if you want to extend beyond music, the "four elements of hip hop" also include breakdancers and graffiti artists.

rap was a more popular term in the past because the genre was new so it was like "oh you know, the music with the rapping", sort of like how every rapper had MC in their name, and now they don't, but they still refer to each other as MCs. why? because they all still consider themselves MCs, and refer to rapping as MCing, so at this point in time they don't need to state in their names.

make sense?



Your right in theory, And I agree with you.

But words Hip/hop and rap are increasing used as a to divide the two groups... "us" and "them". Its become all about ideology

Genre: Rap

Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 9:18 pm
by Mark Hansen_Archive
I like some of the old school stuff. Run-D.M.C., Public Enemy, Grandmaster Flash, even some of the early gangsta material like the Ghetto Boys and Ice-T.

The newer material just leaves me cold. It just seems so cliche. There's probably newer material out there I would like, but I really don't feel like searching it out.

I don't listen to newer punk rock either, for pretty much the same reason.

I will vote not crap for the older stuff I do like. I won't dismiss a whole genre, unless of course you're talking about Emo.

Genre: Rap

Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 10:19 pm
by Heliotropic_Archive
*~*~ TRILL ASS SHIT RIGHT HERE BRO~*~*~

Mark Hansen wrote:I like some of the old school stuff. Run-D.M.C., Public Enemy, Grandmaster Flash, even some of the early gangsta material like the Ghetto Boys and Ice-T.

The newer material just leaves me cold. It just seems so cliche. There's probably newer material out there I would like, but I really don't feel like searching it out.

I don't listen to newer punk rock either, for pretty much the same reason.

I will vote not crap for the older stuff I do like. I won't dismiss a whole genre, unless of course you're talking about Emo.


Deltron 3030 and Dr. Octagon are two interesting albums you might like.

Genre: Rap

Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 10:25 pm
by that damned fly_Archive
mostly crap.

a higher ratio than many other genres.

Genre: Rap

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 1:17 am
by world of pee_Archive
fancyjamtime wrote:Do you have homosexual friends who like reggae? Cock.

Burning Spear.

Genre: Rap

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 1:29 am
by fancyjamtime_Archive
world of pee wrote:
fancyjamtime wrote:Do you have homosexual friends who like reggae? Cock.

Burning Spear.


For the record, I went back and tried to recreate my mindset when I made that comment and I'm dumbfounded. I was pissed of at BClark for some reason and just started saying dumb shit. The "I have black friends" comment that preceeded it was meant as irony. Most stupid racist statements seem to start with that disclaimer. The homosexual/reggae comment was the result of bad seafood if I remember correctly and I apologize to anyone whose feelings might have been hurt. Heh.

Genre: Rap

Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 11:16 am
by Peripatetic_Archive
I don't know where else to post this.

It's fucking hilarious.

http://www.cracked.com/article_16158_11 ... -ever.html