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Total votes: 56 (66%)
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Total votes: 29 (34%)
Total votes: 85

Decision: Nader for President

102 by Minotaur029_Archive
mattw wrote:
Minotaur029 wrote:Here's a story for you third party jerkoffs:

Obama was recently in the GAP on Michigan Avenue. In said GAP, Obama was there to return a pair of slacks that Michelle Obama had bought for him. He said that the pants did not fit and that his wife had fucked up in getting them for him.

The man came to return his own pants, only to be ogled by people who were wild about the most liberal man in the U.S. Senate.



Would Ralph Nader return his own shitty pants? I sincerely doubt it.

Obama may not be "the answer," but stop looking at a gift horse in the mouth you fucking idiots.


I don't like your jerk-off story, I don't like your jerk-off handle, and I don't like you, jerk-off.


The point of this story: Obama is a real person with real problems who hasn't been so disconnected from real people for so long that he can't empathize with them.

He only got out of MASSIVE DEBT just recently when his book (The Audacity of Hope) became a best seller.

If Marsupialized had said what I just said last night, you would have nodded your heads in agreement. And for that, the lot of you should piss off.

Skronk wrote:Did the popular vote win the 2000 election? No. You see this so simply it's ridiculous.


Okay. Soooo you're telling me that if Al Gore hadn't won 1% of Ralph Nader's 92,000 or so FL votes, Al Gore wouldn't be our president right now? Don't be content to be Rick Reuben's lap dog, dude. What you hear on a message board from some crackpot should not influence the way you perceive the world.



Also, NerblyBear...wherever you are, go fuck yourself.
kerble wrote:Ernest Goes to Jail In Your Ass

Decision: Nader for President

103 by Skronk_Archive
Minotaur029 wrote:
Skronk wrote:Did the popular vote win the 2000 election? No. You see this so simply it's ridiculous.



Okay. Soooo you're telling me that if Al Gore hadn't won 1% of Ralph Nader's 92,000 or so FL votes, Al Gore wouldn't be our president right now? Don't be content to be Rick Reuben's lap dog, dude. What you hear on a message board from some crackpot should not influence the way you perceive the world.


This is silly scapegoating. Regardless of Nader, Gore won the popular vote. You can blame Gore's campaign for not drudging up more votes, the supreme court for halting the recount, you can even blame the democratic party for not finding a more suitable candidate. It's easy to blame Nader for Gore's losses, but there's nothing to back that up. Nader's votes were his alone, not some voting I.O.U that can pass from one candidate to another. It's easy to blame Nader when the precious two party system is strained, and put in jeopardy. You can recognize an obvious problem when the top tier candidates are solely from two parties in every election, but gripe when that system shows it's faults.

It's convenient for you to assume I get my politics from the back of Rick's truck, no matter how ridiculous that idea is. It's an easy cop out so you can disregard what I write. Grow up.

Decision: Nader for President

104 by Boombats_Archive
Rick Reuben wrote:I mean, everything that you wrote that looks like something I posted here three years ago makes all kinds of sense, you know, all that shit about 'figureheads' and 'shadow government' and 'poitless voting', but the rest of that shit about President Mitt... what were you smoking?


WEED, Rick, I was smoking weed. Stopped chasing the dragon a long time ago. I was fucking around with that "high authority" shit man, I got no connexxions to the Illuminati! Now the Golden Dawn, that's a different story...


Rick Reuben wrote:And then later that same day:
boombats 11-18-07 wrote:Of course I believe in third party candidates etc etc but I also believe in Cthulhu. Cthulhu has a better chance of materialising in 2008 anyway.

Got a better third party candidate than Nader that you expect to see in the race, Boomz... or is it better to cast your pointless vote for a figurehead sent by the shadow government if he's Barack Obama and he returns his own pants?/quote]

No third party candidates are worth my vote. None. Zero. Yes, it is better to vote for Obama, if only to start a race war. Helter Skelter!
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Decision: Nader for President

105 by Minotaur029_Archive
Rick Reuben wrote:You think Obama doesn't take corporate money...


He has (as of today) received donations from one million people. This is an incredible number.

If these one million people all donated the maximum $2100, Barack Obama would have a campaign chest of $21 billion dollars. As it stands however, Barack Obama has raised:

Rick Reuben wrote:Barack Obama (D)
Total Raised:
$137,431,963


Barack Obama claims the reason that it appears that lobbyists have given him money is because these were private donors who work for said company.

If this is a lie, why doesn't Hillary Clinton take him to town on said lie? He repeats the "I don't take money from lobbyists" mantra in every debate. Why wouldn't she bring this up as long as she's currently throwing the kitchen sink at Obama?

Fortunately for all of you, the great Rick Reuben has seen what Hillary Clinton and her national campaign has not seen...that Barack Obama is a hypocrite and liar.

Rick Reuben wrote:I really, really, really goddamn love what I write.
kerble wrote:Ernest Goes to Jail In Your Ass

Decision: Nader for President

107 by Minotaur029_Archive
Newsweek wrote:After she worked for the city for a couple of years, Barack led Michelle closer to community activism. He was on the board of a start-up group called Public Allies, a nonprofit that encouraged young people to go into public service—just the kind of encouragement she felt she had never gotten. The organization needed a Chicago director. The job paid even less than her city post. "It sounded risky and just out there," she says. "But for some reason it just spoke to me. This was the first time I said, 'This is what I say I care about. Right here. And I will have to run it'." (Michelle jokes that she took a pay cut with every new job. The couple finally got out of debt when Barack's book, "The Audacity of Hope," became a best seller.)


Here's me citing my sources. If only Rick Reuben would consistently do the same.
kerble wrote:Ernest Goes to Jail In Your Ass

Decision: Nader for President

108 by MWilke_Archive
alandeus wrote:
MWilke wrote:
Mark Lansing wrote:and while I think it's foolish to blame Nader for Gore's defeat (he's been made the scapegoat for Gore's failings as a campaigner and the Republicans' wholsesale theft of the Florida election)


If his 96,000 votes in Florida go to Gore, George W. Bush is a footnote in American history. No recounts, no theft, no Katherine Harris. Stop kidding yourself.


If Buchanan's 6,000 votes in Iowa go to Bush, Gore loses that state; Nader 29,000
If Buchanan's 11,000 votes in Wisconsin go to Bush, Gore loses that state; Nader 94,000 votes
If Buchanan's 1,500 votes in New Mexico go to Bush, Gore loses that state; Nader 21,000 votes

If Buchanan's 7,000 votes in Oregon go to Bush, Gore loses that state; 77,000 to Nader

and If Nader's 96,000 votes in Florida go to Gore, Bush loses that state...but still wins the electoral college.

Why no thanks to Buchanan, instead of vitriol toward Nader?



It's less compelling looking at it this way.
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