Here's a great video of composer Wolfgang Rihm in conversation with the cellist of the Arditti quartet:

bigc wrote:I'm continually trying to find classical connections or roots for the kinds of things Stars of the Lid and their ilk do, to no avail. Anyone have any suggestions? I love the glacial pacing of that genre, and I really like the more traditional instrumentation.some that come to mind:part's cantus in memory of benjamin brittenives' the unanswered questionand john adamsthough part and adams are both still working, so are more contemporaries than predecessors.

bishopdante wrote:Geometric minimalism is a modernist movement, whether it's the 2nd viennese school or the more consonant school of minimalist classical music eg: glass, pärt, cage, nyman, riley.Postmodern cultural values in classical music are thinner on the ground, the best examples of household names classical postmodern music (ironic referencing and deconstruction) are probably movie score composers such as John Williams or Danny Elfman. Ives is quite postmodern.Frank Zappa is probably the most postmodern music you can get. He started off in avant garde modernist classical music.Let's see what Wikipedia says...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postmodern\_musicCode: Select allJohn Adams (Carl 1990, 45, 51 “54; Kramer 2002, 13)Thomas Adès (Fox 2004, 53)Robert Ashley (Gagné 2012, 12, 19)Luciano Berio (Connor 2001, 477 “78; Kramer 2002, 14) (Also cited as a modernist composer)Harrison Birtwistle (Beard and Gloag 2005, 143)William Bolcom (Carl 1990, 45, 59 “63)Hans-Jürgen von Bose (Kutschke 2010, 582)Pierre Boulez (Mankowskaya 1993, 91; Ofenbauer 1995, passim; Petrusëva 2003, 45) (Also cited as a modernist composer)Henry Brant (Gagné 2012, 44-45, 208)John Cage (Pasler 2011) (Also cited as a modernist composer)Elliott Carter (Beard and Gloag 2005, 143)Aldo Clementi (Morris 2009, 559)John Corigliano (Kramer 2002, 14)Hans-Christian von Dadelsen (Kutschke 2010, 582)Brian Eno (Gagné 2012, 90 “91)Brian Ferneyhough (Carl 1990, 45 “48) (Also cited as a modernist composer)Philip Glass (Beard and Gloag 2005, 144) (Also cited as a modernist composer)Vinko Globokar (Mankowskaya 1993, 91)Heiner Goebbels (Beard and Gloag 2005, 142)Michael Gordon (Gagné 2012, 117)Peter Gordon (Gagné 2012, 117)Henryk Górecki (Beard and Gloag 2005, 143)Charles Ives (LeBaron 2002, 59) (Also cited as a modernist composer)Ben Johnston (Carl 1990, 45, 55 “59)Mauricio Kagel (Gagné 2012, 149 “50)Wilhelm Killmayer (Kutschke 2010, 582)Zygmunt Krauze (Kramer 2002, 13)David Lang (Gagné 2012, 156)Anne LeBaron (Gagné 2012, 156 “57)György Ligeti (Geyh n.d.)Beata Moon (Gagné 2012, 180)Detlev Müller-Siemens (Kutschke 2010, 582)Michael Nyman (Pasler, 2011)Pauline Oliveros (Carl 1990, 45, 54 “55; Gagné 2012, 193)John Oswald (Gagné 2012, 199 “200)Harry Partch (Gagné 2012, 202)Bernard Rands (Kramer 2002, 14)Steve Reich (Connor 2001, 479 “80; Kramer 2002, 14; Mankowskaya 1993, 91) (Also cited as a modernist composer)Wolfgang Rihm (Beard and Gloag 2005, 142)Terry Riley (Gagné 2012, 208)George Rochberg (Kramer 2002, 13)Alfred Schnittke (Kramer 2002, 13)Wolfgang von Schweinitz (Kutschke 2010, 582)Karlheinz Stockhausen (Connor 2001, 476 “77; Geyh n.d.; Petrusëva 2003, 45) (Also cited as a modernist composer)John Tavener (Beard and Gloag 2005, 143)Manfred Trojahn (Kutschke 2010, 582)Trevor Wishart (Connor 2001, 480 “81)Charles Wuorinen (Carl 1990, 45, 48 “51)Iannis Xenakis (Geyh n.d.)John Zorn (Gagné 2012, 306)[b]Popular music performers cited as important to postmodern music[/b]Bad Religion (O'Reilly 1994)David Bowie (Berger 2003, 8)Michael Jackson (Berger 2003, 8)Madonna (Berger 2003, 8)Talking Heads (Smart 1993, 14)Frank Zappa (Gagné 2012, 305)edit\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_that's kinda funny that bowie jackson and madonna get automatic smileys with sunglasses due to the 8 ) character collision. Wonder if it's possible to disable smileys or have a no smiley mode. Aha, plaintext code mode. Oh cool, it shrinks big posts with a scrollbar, too.Bad Religion (O'Reilly 1994)David Bowie (Berger 2003, Michael Jackson (Berger 2003, Madonna (Berger 2003, Talking Heads (Smart 1993, 14)Frank Zappa (Gagné 2012, 305)Thank you for all that bishopdante, but the poor guy only asked which Vivaldi LP to get!bishopdante wrote:Geometric minimalismWhen you forego all the options when buying one of these? I'll roll my own bloody windows up, dammit! Plink-plonk-twang-scrape...

Best performance of The Four Seasons? Preferably available on vinyl? Eh?

Major wrote:Best performance of The Four Seasons? Preferably available on vinyl? Eh?You can hardly go wrong with the Harmonia Mundi France label:http://store.hmusa.com/vivaldi-four-sea ... ments.htmlThe other piece on that one looks rather interesting as well. I'm not a fan of classical music on vinyl. I have a ton, but honesty you will not do better than a CD or SACD from the last 12 years or so. Sorry purists. I you 'must' have vinyl, the recording on Columbia/CBS with Isaac Stern and the Jerusalem Chamber Orchestra or whatever it was from the late 70s is still considered a classic.madmanmunt wrote:Thank you for all that bishopdante, but the poor guy only asked which Vivaldi LP to get!Vivaldi, eh? He wasn't part of the Darmstadt School was he? Maybe he's one of the guys from IRCAM I just haven't gotten around to yet.

geiginni wrote:I'm not a fan of classical music on vinyl. I have a ton, but honesty you will not do better than a CD or SACD from the last 12 years or so. Sorry purists. I'll go along with this perhaps for different reasons. Recently I've been increasing my vinyl collection and classical and ambient music definitely come off badly noise wise. I do actually like the audio quality of a few of my classical vinyl collection but I'm sourcing old pressings which often have some damage. The ones advertised as mint are often not and the quiet passages can be excruciating to sit through. However, my Seraphim vinyl twin box of Borodin Quartet playing Shostas first 11 4tets has superior audio quality to the harsh Chandos CDs (1-13) and were inexpensive. My DG Karajan Beethoven complete Symphonies (60s recordings) were also cheap but sound phenomenal. Unfortunately both of these sets have bad sides; the second half of the DSCHs SQ2 is almost unplayable and Beet's 9th is also pretty crackly in the latter parts. I would much rather listen to ambient Eno, SOTL or other electronic music on good CDs rather than vinyl. I bought Eno's Lux awhile ago on vinyl which was a big mistake. The two classical sets mentioned above are mostly okay but jazz and rock etc work much better on vinyl than classical/electronic.I did pick up a fairly clean vinyl copy of DSCHs Symphony No. 8/Haitink Concertgebouw recording on Decca which does sound rather good but is digital anyway so perhaps pointless on Vinyl when I have the complete Haitink cycle on CD.As for the best CD version of my favorite cycle, the Shostakovich String Quartets, the recent Audite box with the Mandelring Quartet is equal to the Fitzwilliams or Emersons.http://youtu.be/WdEUeFWAwuc

Major wrote:Best performance of The Four Seasons? Preferably available on vinyl? Eh?It depends on what you're looking for when it comes to "best" - Itzhak Perlman is a phenomenal violinist but I find that his playing can overwhelm the rest of the orchestra because it's kind of showy. Its gorgeous music and an absolute joy to listen to but it's nice to have the subtleties of the rest of the orchestra come through once in a while. http://www.arkivmusic.com/classical/album.jsp?album\_id=9941

Hey, who's that guy that plays solo Bach or Mozart (or something) on a double bass tuned like a cello?I heard this crazy record on the local NPR one day and I THINK this is what they were playing. It could be something else, but I'm almost certain it was solo double bass, played with a bow, and it was really amazing.Sure as fuck wasn't jazz.

Dunno what it is you're looking for, but here's some bowed double bass for you:

Edgar Meyer has a recording of 3 of Bach's cello suites done on bass. It's pretty great. Look it up on Amazon. I heard Ed Barker of the BSO do all six one time, and it was catastrophically awesome.