What you want to do when you are in a situation where anybody in an enormous group of thousands of people can throw shit at you and harm you is to let one of them get away with throwing shit at you.

Not.

tmidgett wrote:Guy, man, dude:

I don't know. How quickly? I assume you have this figured out.

You have some weird axe to grind with Josh Homme, and I don't mean a guitar made out of a satellite dish.

OK [makes hands cleaning motion], I am done with discussion.

Take it to the streets.

Wow, you certainly have my number. I didn't even know who was in that band until yesterday. I have no more of an axe to grind than I do with any jock Rock Star who puts some teenager's life in danger to get some more applause. It could have been the guy from Creed for all I care.

"I assume you have this figured out." Yea, I calculated it with software I've created. Certainly and assholish way to end a discussion. Good luck with that.

I guess I shouldn't have posted. My mistake. I apologize. Back to lurking in the tech forum I go. My humblest apologies.

givemenoughrope wrote:

emmanuelle cunt wrote: But I said that you brought it up here, which you did, and that it has nothing to do with Josh Homme singling that kid from the crowd

Sure it does. You don't think that what a performer has to say on stage can cause a crowd surge, which is the very thing responsible for the PJ and LB deaths?

Two weeks before the Pearl Jam tragedy I was at their show, so I read pretty much everything about that event. You know, "you could have been me". It had nothing to do with moshing, it happened because people where pushed against the barriers, slipped on the mud, and another rows of people were pushed on them. Some of the festival staff knew there is a problem, but they had no idea how serious it was, so they let the band finish the song they were playing,this one which just happens to be always 6 to 9 minutes long in live environment. Then Vedder asked the crowd to move back, and everyone did (I saw a video). But it was already too late. A completely unnecessary tragedy. But nothing to do with crowd going nuts and violent over a song. Or by the singer pointing at someone and bad mouthing him.

busbus wrote:
There's a pattern happening here as referenced by your participation in this thread and in the Gallo/Veleno thread.

The difference is that I've also had direct dealings with VG that, like Zom-Zom's, started off fine and ended quite poorly. I apologize for having an opinion about that also. Sorry.

(I'm also realizing why he ditched the PRF in the first place.)

emmanuelle cunt wrote:

givemenoughrope wrote:

emmanuelle cunt wrote: But I said that you brought it up here, which you did, and that it has nothing to do with Josh Homme singling that kid from the crowd

Sure it does. You don't think that what a performer has to say on stage can cause a crowd surge, which is the very thing responsible for the PJ and LB deaths?

Two weeks before the Pearl Jam tragedy I was at their show, so I read pretty much everything about that event. You know, "you could have been me". It had nothing to do with moshing, it happened because people where pushed against the barriers, slipped on the mud, and another rows of people were pushed on them. Some of the festival staff knew there is a problem, but they had no idea how serious it was, so they let the band finish the song they were playing,this one which just happens to be always 6 to 9 minutes long in live environment. Then Vedder asked the crowd to move back, and everyone did (I saw a video). But it was already too late. A completely unnecessary tragedy. But nothing to do with crowd going nuts and violent over a song. Or by the singer pointing at someone and bad mouthing him.

Ok. I'm AGREEING with you. PJ was not in the wrong at all. LB, I'm not so sure about. I was just saying that people die at rock festivals.

givemenoughrope wrote:"I assume you have this figured out." Yea, I calculated it with software I've created. Certainly and assholish way to end a discussion. Good luck with that.

I guess I shouldn't have posted. My mistake. I apologize. Back to lurking in the tech forum I go. My humblest apologies.

Nah, you're right about me being a dick. Sorry.

I was being a dick. Unnecessarily. And on the Internet to boot, which is even worse than being a dick in person!

I think you're overreacting, but whatever. I am not wanting to set myself up as a Josh Homme apologist by any means. I do not know him at all.

I am too. The video clip just got to me and really kinda scared me (since it's in front of such a big crowd). It;s just that I saw this as a really selfish display on the part of the singer. I think that in your example, you dealt with the heckler as a person on the same level which is the right way.

And you know what else...I AM mental. 6 pages? But, George Carlin dies while I'm in LA and in a crippling heat wave. I guess that's my excuse.

givemenoughrope wrote:I think that in your example, you dealt with the heckler as a person on the same level which is the right way.

Yeah...I don't know. Maybe that little part of it was rightish.

I told him, "I would like to knock out your teeth, so please meet me after we are done playing."

I guess that is very marginally better than saying, "Hey, everybody, knock out that guy's teeth." But it is still pretty lame. Esp when I wasn't going to do it, and he hadn't actually done anything to me physically.

Fair enough but I'm assuming that this wasn't at the Enormodome with people chugging beers and yelling "Fuck yea!" I doubt you put anyone or anything besides your teeth in any danger...and if the guy went to the side of the stage at the end...well...

cesb wrote:What you want to do when you are in a situation where anybody in an enormous group of thousands of people can throw shit at you and harm you is to let one of them get away with throwing shit at you.

Not.

agreed.